Why don't female politicians fall into the trap of infidelity?

Ya'll look at Nancy, Hillary, Feinstein lately? What man in his right mind would even think about it.

nor would they be likely to give you a look, man boobs

Well said, Loretta.

That's true. She is more likely to lose everything than he is.

She is more likely to lose everything than he is.

And had to work too hard to get it to be willing to throw it all away just for sex.

I hope mediocre women don't start getting promoted to power. The ones who had to struggle for it should set a better standard.

And yet who do we know who was "promoted" (albeit briefly) just because she had a uterus?

Frightening.

16.2: And had to work too hard to get it to be willing to throw it all away just for sex.

Good point.

I hope mediocre women don't start getting promoted to power. The ones who had to struggle for it should set a better standard.

Shouldn't that be true for men too? Yet it isn't. That's why the adage. Mediocre men get promoted all the time, but a woman still has to be exceptional in order to be promoted. Equality will be when both sexes need to be exceptional or both sexes can be promoted even when they are mediocre candidates.

And yet who do we know who was "promoted" (albeit briefly) just because she had a uterus?

Would having a uterus help a woman get elected? Would that disqualify women who've had hysterectomies? I can't think of a single woman who was elected because of her reproductive organs or lack thereof.

I can think of one that was nominated for VP because McCain apparently thought women voted based on body shape or uterine ownership.

Mediocre men get promoted all the time,

Having a penis makes them automatically exceptional, apparently. :-P

My mother's explanation for "penis envy" is based on this: women don't actually want a penis, they want all the perks that go along with simply being born with one.

I can think of one that was nominated

That's the one I meant. It wasn't a rhetorical question. ;-}

women don't actually want a penis,

Any woman who does can go to any busy place and pick one out, have fun playing with it, then send the unruly thing home when she's done. Actually owning one would be too much of a bother.

they want all the perks that go along with simply being born with one.

Precisely.

Loretta

Any woman who does can go to any busy place and pick one out, have fun playing with it, then send the unruly thing home when she's done. Actually owning one would be too much of a bother.

LMAO =} Now why can we not teach 18 year old girls dead set on walking down that isle in the white princess dress that?

LOL. Because we're still allowing society to lie to them. They aren't dreaming of marriage. It's reality is too obscure. What they're dreaming of is one day of feeling beautiful and being the center of attention. Since the goal is to get them married, no one is telling them that after that one day, it gets a whole lot tougher.

I was very frank with my children: sex matters and it better be good sex or it ain't worth bothering with. Don't rush into marriage because forever is a long, long time.

Yeah, but even with good sex there is so much pressure with the compromise... and no one wants to do it.

then comes all of the pressure from work. You would think that by 27 even, both men and women would understand this ... but no... they have to go through that divorce to get it.

women excuse the behaviour more than men... they find a way to put the blame on the other spouse.

Women get blamed for their spouse's cheating all the time. You see it right here on this thread -- by men:

5: That's why men chippy around because they have a woman at home that drive's them to another woman. They have a wife at home that changes into someone else the minute the ring goes on the finger. The men have a wife at home that tries to turn them into someone thay aren't.

10: The personality type required for most females to enter politics is a quest for power which frequently makes them castrating in their approach to men, rather than amorous. It is their spouse that to tends to do the stepping out, ie: the husbands of Hillary Clinton, Debbie Stabenow, etc.

Read most any thread on Sanford, and you'll see his wife get the blame too.

So I'm not sure why you think it's women blaming their spouses. Or are you saying that women excuse their hubbies cheating by blaming the other woman? I've known women who've done that. Dumb way to handle it though because the other woman didn't make a vow to them for fidelity.

Women are not cats, nor men dogs. Displaying the lowest form of one's nature is not endearing.

maddad... you are such a good moderator.

Loretta... this is an area we may disagree. I grew up with an angry mother who would blame men (father of course) ... because to them men are the root of all evil, and I have grown up in a neighbor hood where women continuously blame the men... never taking into account their own participation in the situation. And if you watch TV... men are the "dogs".

There is no one totally to blame in many cases. I don't know the particulars in how the Sanfords became married. He most certainly is a fool, and she comes off as a martyr.

The question was why do female politicians fall into the trap of infidelity....

1. it is not a trap... it bares willing participants.

2. women do cheat.... they may be better equipped with deception.

One thing to consider is who they cheat with.... How many men do you think (even 21 year old men) would take a older (fatherly) friend through their closet and show off evidence of lovemaking with a Female Politician? (Lewinsky) And do you think that "fatherly figure" (like Linda Tripp) would tell the world?

So is it because women would choose a more discreet lover? or....

Is it because women become more possessive (more often) than men do?

I grew up with an angry mother who would blame men (father of course) ... because to them men are the root of all evil, and I have grown up in a neighbor hood where women continuously blame the men... never taking into account their own participation in the situation.

If the men are cheating, it is their fault. No one made them do it. Same for women. It doesn't matter what the spouse does or doesn't do. They can choose to get a divorce if they don't want to keep their vow of fidelity.

How many men do you think (even 21 year old men) would take a older (fatherly) friend through their closet and show off evidence of lovemaking with a Female Politician? (Lewinsky) And do you think that "fatherly figure" (like Linda Tripp) would tell the world?

I doubt many women would do that either. But either sex could have that mindset. I don't think it is gender related. I think it is power related. Those who seek power use a variety of ways to try to attain it. Why wouldn't a man sell the info to a gossip rag and tell the world the same way a woman would? If that's the way they think, they'll do it.

Is it because women become more possessive (more often) than men do?

If women are more possessive, why are there more men who murder their intimate partners when they try to break off the relationship? Three women die every day via murder by an intimate partner. 70% of those are murdered when they try to leave.

If women are more possessive, why are there more men who murder their intimate partners when they try to break off the relationship? Three women die every day via murder by an intimate partner. 70% of those are murdered when they try to leave.

True... but that is a different part of distructive possession.

One is instant death.... the other some consider a slow death.

I am not defending either.

People should say what they really want up front.

And you are right... the persons committing the act of adultry are the most responsible for it. But ... if you know there is a problem in your marriage .... you should not ignor it.

You shouldn't ignore a problem in any part of your life, including marriage.

However, we should not look at infidelity as the result of a problem. It is a problem all by itself. Anyone who marries vows fidelity. If they cheat, they've broken the vow their partner had every right to expect them to keep. Yes, there are some marriages where a different agreement has been discussed and agreed upon. I'm not discussing those marriages which are not the majority. I'm talking about marriage vows as they are commonly thought of.

No matter how unhappy a person is in a marriage, cheating is not a solution. It just everything worse. The person knows that before they cheat.

But many cheat when there is no problem in the marriage. They never meant to keep their vows right from the beginning, or they decide it's okay to break them. They don't discuss it with their partner because they know it is a deal breaker, that the other would be hurt and would likely file for divorce.

No one forces anyone to cheat. No one is responsible for the cheating except the one who cheats. That person alone made the decision, and that person alone could have made a different decision.

True, no one forces us to cheat... I root for divorce before you meet that person that turns you on. If the marriage is truly over, then don't wait around until you have the replacement. Man up or Woman up to the elephant in the room and deal with it.

Well said.

;)

Do you think some men feel the need to disparage a powerful woman's looks because they are afraid of her power?

Applause. Standing ovation even. Well said.

That's one rumor about Palin I hadn't heard.

You might be right about men fearing to be thought less of by having an affair with a powerful woman. I'd like to hear from some of the men on this. Does it ring true?

I googled it....it was on several sites...involved her husband's EX-business partner. Of course, The Enquirer claims to have sworn affidavit's from someone in the know. The same old drill....