Miss Florida contest -Pictures

Believe it or not, they do ! ;)

rofl....who cant help lookin ? =0

Kimberly-430040 - Why didn't you mention the interview ? ; )

Picture number two of Cynthia deFerrari seems to reveal a girl who may not only be heterosexual, but actually advocate marriage between differing genitalia

We may need dozens more photographs as evidence to examine this alarming prospect

I'm really upset. I ran, I was chosen as one of the top 5 contestants and they didn't show my picture. I'm taking my kitty and going home.

dkaz - I'm taking my kitty and going home.

There is a joke about having a pussy on your breast...

...but I'm sure as hell not the one who's going to bring it up !

; )

There's no real straight answer to that joke either.

Definitely a push to get a Florida woman to be Miss USA this year so it seems.

alan,

...but I'm sure as hell not the one who's going to bring it up !

Cum on...be a good sport. We're all friends here. Tell us the joke.

dkaz - We're all friends here. Tell us the joke.

How about this one instead, since it doesn't violate the CoH...

. A man is carrying 3 babies while riding the train
. The lady sitting next to him asks.... Are those your babies?
. He replies; "Uhhh No, I work in a condom factory and these are customer COMPLAINTS"

; )

OKay, here is a bonus joke...

The teacher asks: Which part of the body goes to heaven first?
Little boy replies : egs…because every night I see my mom's legs up high and screaming "OH GOD! I'M COMING".

The teacher asks: Which part of the body goes to heaven first?
Little boy replies : egs…because every night I see my mom's legs up high and screaming "OH GOD! I'M COMING".

ROFLOL!!

Little boy replies : egs…

I don't get it. What are "egs"?

more than likely a typo it should be legs

It was a joke. I should have included............"[laughing]"

Making fun of a poor voyeuristic perverted lil' boy with a speech impediment...

...how cruel !

; )

Yah, okay.

;-)

ruthless,

Curves like this?

I dont' know, maddad. But why, when I have a good link up there it only lasts 24 hrs.

I just clicked on and the damn thing is gone.

I'll just put a nicer picture of curves up for ruthless.

Roll her in flour and look for the wet spot?

Wow you guys aren't pigs at all?!

hey... you came to this article on purpose, I can't be held responsible for the "filthiness" you experience here.

dkaz - as much as I love curves, I'm sure I'll enjoy that pic... once I get home and away from the firewall lol

Anne,

Wow you guys aren't pigs at all?!

Ahem!.....I happen to have......hang on.......[looking down my shirt at my 40DD's].........boobs.

Just imagine the poor thing if everyone ignored her for being so morbidly rotund...

...at least the flour is a good faith effort to help her find her G spot

; )

wait a sec...... (looking down MY shirt)...... hey dkaz!!.... me too!!! :D lol

Fine: I'll modify my statement. You people are acting piggish.

Anne,

Thank you. That's much better. We're all in this together. Good, fun Viners stick together and watch each others back.

Hey Alan! Wanna watch my back? And front?..................[laughing]

dkaz - Hey Alan! Wanna watch my back? And front?........[laughing]

Hey, careful there...

...you could put somebody's eyes out with those !

; )

...you could put somebody's eyes out with those !

How about Anne's since she has a problem with looking at pretty women.

I think Anne is sincerely on a mission of supreme importance that will determine if the world succeeds or fails based on the proper evolutionary reconfirmation of Politically Correct parameters for behaviorial dynamic paradigms in intergender communication

...yeah... prolly about as fun as it sounds

I'm sorry, could you repeat that... I seemed to have slipped into a mild coma.
(wipes drool from face and desk)

alan

I don't know what the phuck you just said in 4.15 but anyone that can use words with more than 6 letters is..........HOT!.......................[laughing]

Afflictions discourage indiscreet courtships

( ten letters each )

signed : your cunning linguist

; )

You nut!!!

[I'm in love!]

Well now you're just making up words to get dkaz all hot and bothered lol

Some comes from my ex-wife's acrobatic cunning stunts with hot animals...

...you should have seen her sick duck

; )

ruthless,

Well now you're just making up words to get dkaz all hot and bothered lol

And he's doing a good job.

alan,

you should have seen her sick duck

yer a sick duck.........[laughing]

And he's doing a good job

Maybe I should get one of those word a day calenders....... or EIGHT!

Yeah... that's the ticket... or maybe a portable TelePrompter and a gag writer...

I'd prefer one of those CIA ear-pieces.

Anne,

Speaking woman to woman, there are a lot of women for whatever reasons, have the same hang ups as you do.

There is nothing wrong with a young woman whose goal is to be Miss America.

Show me which one of these are anorexic.

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/images/photos/miss-america-swimsuit-prelims.jpg

http://access.nscpcdn.com/gallery/i/m/missamericaswim06/56643128.jpg

http://www.ruggedelegantliving.com/a/images/Miss.Utah.swimsuit.winner.jpg

Because I'll tell you now. When I was in my 20's, that's what I looked like. So in your opinion, I guess I was anorexic. In mine.......I was hot.

Now.........who's the sick one.

dkaz,

Since the vast majority of people of both sexes are overweight, the image of a fit, healthy, slender individual seems to them to be some malnourished skeleton

I suspect it is a matter of both a startling intrusion of cognitive dissonance and a sprinkling of jealousy

Poss-a-bull.

When I was in my 20's, that's what I looked like. So in your opinion, I guess I was anorexic. In mine.......I was hot

I believe it!! and from what you keep showing me... you're still quite a looker, dkaz. ;P

Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. Just cuz I prefer a little more cushion that what those girls have, do I think they're NOT attractive... quite the opposite. They're very pretty... just not what I prefer.

What's more sad is that they are supposed to be role models! What does this teach young girls about character and intelligence? That its not nearly as important as being "pretty". It's sick.

Not if you wanna be miss america. She is not supposed to be a role model... everyone knows this is a beauty contest... why do people keep pushing for these women to be a beacon of intelligence and morality? There's a friggin swimsuit competition!!

I think its interesting that instead of responding to my post, you've chosen instead to assume that I have to be overweight, jealous, and unhappy to say such things. Well here is an article published in the International Journal of Eating Disorders. I understand that their data is based on Miss America contestants from the '80s, but this was the first article I found and don't really feel like I should have to find every piece of evidence to support what I said. I will not try to pick which girls in your "lineup" are anorexic. I merely said they meet the weight criteria for anorexia. I know there are plenty of really skinny girls out there by nature, but not all of them are. And here I issue a correction of my statement, I said virtually all, but this article puts the figure at 60%. Still alarmingly high.

Cultural Expectations of

Thinness in Women: An Update

Claire V. Wiseman, M.A.

James 1. Gray, Ph.D.

James E. Mosimann, Ph.D.

Anthony H. Ahrens, Ph.D.

(Accepted 10 August, 1990)

An investigation of current American society‘s depiction of the ideal female body

was performed. Body measurements of Playboy magazine centerfolds and Miss

America contestants for 1979- 1988 indicated body weight 13- 19% below expected

weight for women in that age group. Miss America contestants showed a

significant decrease in expected weight between 1979 and 7 988. Comparisons

were made with an earlier study which had demonstrated that body measurements

of both groups had decreased during the period 1959- 1978. Diet-for-weight-loss

and exercise articles in six women’s magazines were tabulated for 1959- 1988. A

significant increase in both diet articles and exercise articles occurred during this

period. These findings suggest that the overvaluation of thinness continues and

thinness is now sought through both dieting and exercise.

Historically, people, especially women, have tried to change their bodies to

conform to the specific era’s image of beauty (Ehrenreich & English, 1978). One

way to trace trends in ideal beauty is to examine various depictions of beauty

in the media, ranging from art or portraits in the pre-camera age to commercial

advertisements and photographs in the present (Lakoff & Scherr, 1984).

Three studies have demonstrated the current emphasis on thinness in the

media. A study of English fashion models over the years 1967-1987 demonstrated

that the desired body shape for models was becoming more tubular,

with bust and hips decreasing while height and waist increased (Morns, Cooper, & Cooper, 1989). Utilizing photographs in Ladies Home Journal and Vogue

magazines Silverstein, Perdue, Peterson, & Kelly (1986) showed that the bust

to waist ratio of models in these magazines has decreased significantly over the

last 20 years, almost reaching the low of the mid-1920s.

Garner, Garfinkel, Schwartz, & Thompson (1980) compared the "ideal" image

of the female body as presented in Playboy magazine and the Miss America

Pageant with the average body size of women. They demonstrated that over a

20-year period of time (1959-1978) there was a significant shift toward a thinner

ideal. Using the Society of Actuaries "Build and Blood Pressure Studies"

(1959, 1979) data as a standard for that time period, Garner et al. (1980) examined

the Playb0.y centerfolds and Miss America contestants as "ideals" in terms

of body shape. They found that during the time period 1959-1978, there was a

decrease in the average weights of Playboy centerfolds and Miss America contestants.

They further demonstrated that between 1959 and 1978, American

women were actually increasing in weight based on the actuarial tables while

"ideals" were becoming thinner and more angular

Garner et al. (1980) also found an increase in the number of "diet-for-weightloss

articles in six leading women's magazines (Harpers Bazaar, Vogue, Ladies

Home Journal, Good Housekeeping, Woman's Day, McCalls) between 1959- 1978.

The current study was undertaken to investigate if the trends found for

1959-1978 by Garner et al. (1980) had continued, leveled off, or declined in the

next decade, with some additional analyses, particularly of exercise-for-weightloss

articles in women's magazines.

METHODS

Body measurements, age, height, bust size, hip size, waist size, and weight

were obtained for the Playboy magazine centerfolds 1979-1988 and the Miss

America contestants 1979- 1985 (1986- 1988 data were not published). Averages

were based on the number of available data points for a given year.

For the Playboy and the Miss America data, percent of expected weight was

calculated for each centerfold and each contestant by dividing their actual

weight by their average weight, as determined by the Society of Actuaries tables

(Society of Actuaries, 1979), for their height and age group, and multiplying

by 100. These percentages were then averaged over each year.

A tabulation of the number of diet-for-weight-loss, exercise, and diet/exercise

articles was determined for the 30-year period, 1959-1988 for the following

monthly magazines, Harpers Bazaar, Vogue, Ladies Home lournal, Good Housekeeping,

Woman's Day, and McCalls, the same magazines used by Garner et al.

(1980). Exercise articles were defined as articles with a major emphasis on exercise

methods or strategies. Diet articles were defined as only articles promoting

dieting specifically for the purpose of weight loss in women or people in

general. Those articles promoting dieting in men or children were disregarded.

Dietlexercise articles were defined as articles that focused on both diet-forweight-

loss and exercise in a combined weight loss or maintenance program.

Advertisements were disregarded. Specific criteria used in each magazine are

available from the first author. Next, the total number of diet, exercise, and

diet/exercise articles for each year was determined by summing the totals for

Cultural Expectations 87

individual magazines for each year, which was then divided by the total number

of articles for that year and the resulting value was multiplied by 100 to

produce the variable, percent of total articles, for each type of article for each

year, 1959- 1988.

RESULTS

Miss America contestants decreased in body size between 1979-1988 while

Playboy centerfolds remained at a low level of body weight. A significant decrease

in percent of expected weight for Miss America contestants was found

between 1979- 1988, r = - .77, p < .01 (see Fig. 1). It should be noted that this

trend appeared to level off in the last several years of the decade 1979-1988.

Body measurements, such as bust, waist, and hip size, were compared over

time for both groups. Only one measurement changed significantly: Miss

America contestants showed a significant (r = -.87, p = .01) decrease in hip

size from 1979-1985. There were no other significant changes in body measurements

over time.

Over the 10-year period (1979-1988) 69% of the Plnyboy centerfolds and 60%

of Miss America contestants had weights 15% or more below the expected

weight for their age and height category, as determined by the Society of Actuaries

table. According to the DSM-111-R (American Psychiatric Association,

1987), maintaining body weight of 15% below expected weight is one of the

major criteria for anorexia nervosa.

No significant difference in percent of expected weight was found between

the winners of the Miss America Pageant, t(9) = 1.4 n.s. and the nonwinning

contestants, or between the Playboy centerfold of the year and the other centerfolds,

t(9) = 0.3 n.s.

A comparison was then made with the study by Garner et al. (1980).

The results with corrected p values are: Garner et al. (1980) Miss

America below their Playboy ( p < .001), Garner et al. (1980) Miss America above

the current study’s Miss America ( p = .088), the current study’s Miss America

above the current Playboy ( p = .076), and the Garner et al. (1980) Playboy above

the current Playboy (p = .268).

A dramatic increase in the number of diet, exercise, and diet/exercise articles

between 1959- 1988 was discovered. Significant positive correlations with years

were found for the percentage of diet articles (r = .78, p < .001), exercise articles

(r = .88, p < .OOl), and diet/exercise articles (r = .68, p < .OOl) as a percent

of total articles. A regression of the percent of total number of diet and exercise

articles showed the two lines to have significantly different slopes, F(1,56) =

27.86, p < .OO1. The level of diet articles dropped off in 1981 to be surpassed by

the level of exercise articles (see Fig. 2).

DISCUSSION

The results of this study further support and extend the hypothesis suggested

in the Garner et al. (1980) study, namely, that the cultural ideal for

women’s body size has remained thin and perhaps become even thinner. In

this study, a further decrease in body size was still occurring among Miss

America contestants and body size had plateaued at a very low level for Playboy

centerfolds. The increase in thinness in Miss America contestants was demonstrated

by the decrease in percent expected weight, ratio of body

measurements, and hip size. It is important to note that the trend in women’s

body size found by Garner et al. (1980) did not reverse itself, it simply levelled

off or decreased further, indicating that this index of women’s ”ideal” body imCultural

Expectations

Has generally stabilized at 13-19% below expected weight. A possible explanation

for the current levelling off in women’s ideal body size would be that

a decrease in percent of expected weight now would be almost impossible and

decidedly into dangerously unhealthy ranges. It may be described in terms of a

floor effect. Body weights below 15% of expected are defined by the DSM-111-R

(American Psychiatric Association, 1987) as one of the criteria for anorexia nervosa.

Thus a majority of these ”ideals” of our society may be classified as having

one of the major symptoms of an eating disorder. The statement this

makes about our society is significant, namely, that we desire the body size of

a person who is extremely thin. Although a causal relationship may not be

drawn directly from this data, it is possible that the expectation that women’s

bodies should be very thin may lead to the onset of eating disorders in other

women. This may offer some insight into the recent almost ”epidemic rise” in

the incidence of eating disorders (Brisman & Siegal, 1984; Waltos, 1986).

The survey of magazine articles indicates an overall increase in emphasis on

weight reduction over the 30-year period. A rise in the proportion of diet, exercise,

and diet/exercise articles was found. However, the number of exercise

articles in the last 8 years has surpassed the number of diet articles. This may

indicate the beginning of a new trend, exercise and fitness for weight loss in

addition to or in place of dieting. The idea of combining diet and exercise in

one weight loss program has gained popularity in the last 30 years. This may

seem to be doubly effective to some, cutting calories and burning calories while

achieving tone. However, in the DSM-111-R the use of excessive exercise is

listed as a method of purging oneself following a binge episode. An overemphasis

on exercise may simply provide a less discernible method of purging allowing

some people to suffer from bulimia nervosa and not be readily

diagnosed.

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And Miss America does try to promote its organization as one that encourages girls and women to be leaders and thinkers. This is part of their purpose statement taken directly from the Miss America website. So yes, it is telling young women that their value can be added up to how well they look in a swimsuit.

"Rich in history and social significance, the Miss America Organization is a not-for-profit organization that has maintained a tradition for many decades of empowering young women to achieve their personal and professional goals, while providing a forum in which to express their opinions, talent and intelligence. Scholarships have been the cornerstone of the Miss America program since 1945 when Bess Myerson was the first Miss America to receive a scholarship from the Organization."

AnneP - I think its interesting that instead of responding to my post, you've chosen instead to assume that I have to be overweight, jealous, and unhappy to say such things.

Unless your name is "vast majority" you can pretty safely assume it wasn't directed at you

Failing that, you could simply ask...

As to whether or not young girls emulate one individual or another as a role model, I suspect that has more to do with her parental upbringing than pictures on a TV or in a magazine

In my family, we were encouraged to be originals rather than copies