Inflammatory right-wing pundit Ann Coulter took aim at a University of Ottawa administrator Monday night, saying an e-mail from the school warning her to use "restraint, respect and consideration" when addressing Ontario students during a speaking tour this week made her a victim of a "hate crime."
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Speaking to students and academics at the University of Western Ontario Monday, Coulter said the e-mail sent to her Friday by Francois Houle, vice-president academic and provost of the University of Ottawa, targeted her as a member of an identifiable group and as such, she will be filing a complaint with the Human Rights Commission alleging hate speech.
"I'm sure the Human Rights Commission will get to the bottom of it," Coulter said to loud cheers from the 800-strong audience. "I think I'm the victim of a hate crime here. Either what (Mr. Houle) did was a hate crime, or the whole commission is BS."
- 13 votes
What is she talking about? She's a walking, talking hate-crime the moment she shows up.
- 108 votes
By the left's definition of hate crime, I would agree with Ann. By my definition no. However, the email was ignorant.
- 18 votes
Another gem of irony all dressed up and ready to head to the hypocrisy ball.
Yes, An Coulter you are hated.
The moral of reality Ann is: You reap what you sow.
- 96 votes
By the left's definition of hate crime,
I don't anyone on the left defines objecting to an evening of hate speech as a hate-crime.
The left, and most anyone else, defines a hate crime as a crime committed against a person or group because of their religious views, their race, their gender, or their sexual orientation.
Ann wasn't there to talk about religion (spewing about how everone else's is plain wrong and they should be converted to Christianity doesn't count). So I fail to see how the protest against her meets the left's (or anyone's) definition of a hate-crime.
- 60 votes
Oh, Dulcinea,
However, the email was ignorant.
The e-mail was to let her know that she should not be ignorant of Canadian Law!
- 59 votes
For cripe's sake. She was asked to act in a mature manner. So what? If they really hated her, she wouldn't have been there in the first place.
- 50 votes
Maybe, just maybe, if she stopped making a living spewing hate she would not be the "victim" of a hate crime.
Just one question. What was the crime? I did not know that it was a crime in Canada to object to a purveyor of hate. Did someone actually lay a hand on her? Was she dragged behind a pick up truck to her death? Was she lynched? Was she set on fire? Was she lynched while on fire? What was the crime?
- 44 votes
Please point out what she would have said that violates Canadian Law.
Last time I checked, it wasn't written into Canadian Law to punish people before the crime.
The left, and most anyone else, defines a hate crime as a crime committed against a person or group because of their religious views, their race, their gender, or their sexual orientation.
Wrong because calling someone a 'socialist' is labeled as hate speech by the left.
As is saying "you lie" to someone.
As is saying anything not in support of Barack Obama.
Deny all you like, but it's evident on Newsvine judging by the amount of times I have been accused of writing hate speech.
- 11 votes
By the left's definition of hate crime, I would agree with Ann. By my definition no. However, the email was ignorant.
The Right seems to assume (singly or en masse) that the Left defines "hate crime" as "anything we say that you don't like"... and so, any time there's a situation where they are challenged for saying those things, that's how they interpret the situation...
Douglas (#1.4) has the right idea, but of course that doesn't fit the conservative narrative, does it?
- 25 votes
Wrong because calling someone a 'socialist' is labeled as hate speech by the left.
As is saying "you lie" to someone.
As is saying anything not in support of Barack Obama.
Bzzzzt. Wrong answer.
The first one we just assume you are a teabagger. No harm, no foul.
The second one we say, "Isn't it wonderful someone with Turret's Syndrome can serve in Congress."
The third we just assume you are a Republican. Again, no harm, no foul.
- 44 votes
Dame, She was punished? Please. If she is so upset, why doesn't she just cancel? All of Canada would be better off she she didn't step foot in their country. I don't know why they wanted her in the first place.
- 36 votes
Please point out what she would have said that violates Canadian Law.
Last time I checked, it wasn't written into Canadian Law to punish people before the crime.
(1) Obviously nobody can know what she would have said. Except for her. Duh.
(2) She wasn't punished by Canadian law. She was informed of it.
(3) My guess is: Because she her usual spewings of hate would violate that law and she didn't have the guts to go to jail for her beliefs, or because she decided she simply would make herself a victim rather than spew her usual hate, she chose not to speak.
- 37 votes
Bzzzzt. Wrong answer.
Then perhaps you should take off you rose colored liberal glasses and read some responses to some of my posts. You may be alone on your list.
Dame, She was punished? Please. If she is so upset, why doesn't she just cancel? All of Canada would be better off she she didn't step foot in their country. I don't know why they wanted her in the first place.
Getting a lecture and getting talked down to is pretty much a punishment if you haven't said anything. It was certainly disrespectful. I don't concur with Ann Coulter's "hate crime" assessment, and frankly, it's ridiculous for her to even go there. However, it's beyond disrespectful to assume that someone is going to break the law before they even set foot on your campus. In that case, they should have not permitted her to speak.
I don't give a damn what Ann Coulter does. I just think it's ignorant to assume she's going to commit a crime or incite a riot, send a condescending email, and NOT ban her from campus.
- 7 votes
"Yes, An Coulter you are hated."
"Ann Coulter makes me want to vomit."
Why, because you don't agree with her views? She doesn't think like you think? Change the channel, but don't hate or vomit. I hear Maddow and Olbermann need some viewers. It may be that you will agree with them. Your digestion will improve. Enjoy. Life is too short to hate or vomit.
- 10 votes
stop blaming the victim guys.
Please.
Ann believes she is the victim and we should all support her seeking justice.
no matter how big an A-hole is, that person still deserves justice and we should thoroughly encourage Ms Coulter to seek it for herself.
then snicker when her case gets thrown out of court and she's revealed for the publicity hound she is.
I for one would fully welcome admitting I was wrong about that one.
how 'bout it Ann?
- 25 votes
greck - please remember this whole thing took place in Canada.
- 7 votes
Andi,
I know that, but my American values dictate my opinion about justice. Certainly there are bound to be some differences in laws, but I'm not the person that purported that a law was broken, Ann Coulter was.
This means that she believes she knows enough about Canadian law to make such a statement, and thus I encourage her to seek justice in Canadian court.
I personally think she's full of sh*t, and I'd love to see it proven, but I'd be perfectly accepting of a decision made in her favor too. Either way, I'm all for someone standing up for her rights.
- 17 votes
Dame, Gosh, did I hurt your feelings? Kinda like Ann? If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
- 21 votes
"I'm sure the Human Rights Commission will get to the bottom of it," Coulter said to loud cheers from the 800-strong audience. "I think I'm the victim of a hate crime here. Either what (Mr. Houle) did was a hate crime, or the whole commission is BS."
"the whole commission is BS" She has left an opening for her next talk show topic.
- 6 votes
Cheers to the Students and Faculty of the University of Ottawa call me extreme but the only benefit her books provide is warmth being used as wicks for the gas furnace and the stove in the kitchen, I like it Real hot in the Kitchen Ann C. Hear me ;) !
- 14 votes
Viners please respect the COH... oops, according to Ann and those stupid enough to believe her, I just committed a hate crime... Ann, EVERYONE hates you! Your own mother prays nightly that the Lord will let her go back in time and abort your dumbass!
Here's my prediction for the response from the HR commission: Ann, shut the F- up you stupid crack-whore and stop wasting our time with your nonsense.
- 26 votes
Ann Coulter is larger than life and thus when she passes away won't fit into any known casket. But if you give her an enema she will fit in a shoe box.
- 20 votes
Bubba-thanks a lot.... When I saw the name "Olbermann", I threw up in my mouth....
I think I just "vurped"?!
- 3 votes
#1.1:What is she talking about? She's a walking, talking hate-crime the moment she shows up.
I am in agreement with you that she is hate-crime herself. It also shows you that other countries do not allow the hate mongering that goes on in this country - and will not tolerate it one bit.
Good for them!
- 23 votes
Last time I checked, it wasn't written into Canadian Law to punish people before the crime.
Damn Q. How is cautioning a person punishment?
- 25 votes
Damn Q. How is cautioning a person punishment?
When you're a Conservative, you think your **** don't stink, you're entitled and divined from God as one of the chosen "RIGHT" people of this country, when you think you are above the law....
Shall I continue?
- 19 votes
Dear Ann,
It's always funny to see Vampires complain about the taste of blood...
- 22 votes
#1.16:Ann believes she is the victim and we should all support her seeking justice.
I disagree wholeheartedly! Just because she believes and says she is a victim is no reason for me to support her seeking justice! People in the wrong usually use the "I'm the victim" mentality- especially when caught!
I believe she was forewarned because of her history of hate-mongering, and the university felt the need to warn her that this would not be allowed - before she perpetrated theses acts.
I feel she was not wronged, but conversely, was treated very respectful which is better than she treats the people she attempt to vilify and demonize!
- 17 votes
NOT cool folks.We only stay respectable by ACTING respectably. I agree she should be vigorously protested against, anyone who is as divisive and hate-laden as she NEEDS to be protested.
Just because we totally disagree with her, does NOT mean it's ok to sink to their level.
- 13 votes
I'm wondering what "identifiable group" she's a member of.
- 6 votes
Dear Ann,
It's always funny to see Vampires complain about the taste of blood...
Rodney, very well played my friend.
- 11 votes
Bloody brilliant. Pun intended.
:)
She's a card carrying member of the GOP's 'elite' the Chupacabra Squad.
- 11 votes
I think the white suited men need to jump Coulter and take her away to where she can no longer hurt herself or anyone else. This woman is a walking and talking hate crime. Almost every one of her words is full of hate and judgement. I think soon she will see her reflection in the mirror and all of that hate distorting her features and ruining her spirit and start screaming while trying to attack the mirror.
- 6 votes
Please point out what she would have said that violates Canadian Law.
Last time I checked, it wasn't written into Canadian Law to punish people before the crime.
Dame Q. In his email to the Coultergeist, U of Ottawa Academic VP and Provost Francois Houle wrote:
"Our domestic laws, both provincial and federal, delineate freedom of expression (or "free speech") in a manner that is somewhat different than the approach taken in the United States. I therefore encourage you to educate yourself, if need be, as to what is acceptable in Canada and to do so before your planned visit here. Promoting hatred against any identifiable group would not only be considered inappropriate, but could in fact lead to criminal charges." He went on to remind the Coultergeist of the strong Canadian tradition of "restraint, respect and consideration."
Now I know why I was so devastated the last time I was confronted with one of those "click-it or ticket" signs on the freeway.
If you consider the above to be punishment I want you for a judge should I ever break a law.
- 19 votes
Ann, you are a hate crime! You should have been run out on a rail LONG AGO!
Maybe she can join RUSH in Costa Rico
- 5 votes
It's not a crime to hate Coulter. Hell, if you're a rational human being, it's almost an obligation. That said, there was no "hate crime" here. Quite honestly, Coulter quailed at the thought of facing a crowd of critical protesters. Like all good demagogues faced with an unfriendly crowd, she made tracks for more productive venues.
And, seriously, isn't the "poor persecuted conservative" schtick pretty stale, already? Coulter opining on "double standards" is about like a $5 hooker talking about charity. Give it a rest, already.
- 13 votes
Ann Coulter: 'I'm the victim of a hate crime'
she really should track down whoever hit her with the fugly tree....
- 8 votes
The lefties are so proud when they are able to prevent a conservative speaker from giving a speech.....Coulter in Canada, Tom Tancredo at Chapel Hill....and of course, the university administration can't be bothered with dealing with the 'protesters' causing the disturbance....
"This kind of hate crime is not only legal, but commendable." Sure, lets forget civil discourse, and go directly to street fighting....
- 2 votes
I'm glad to see a pig like Coulter being shouted down in advance. Let's all hope that kind of greeting follows her everywhere.
To the rightwingnuts: "Payback's a Bitch!"
- 9 votes
I'm glad to see a pig like Coulter being shouted down in advance.
How dare you insult innocent pigs like that! What did they ever do to you? Comparing them to Coulter is beyond the pale!
;-)
- 8 votes
However, the email was ignorant.
However, it's beyond disrespectful to assume that someone is going to break the law before they even set foot on your campus. In that case, they should have not permitted her to speak.
It's not as if Coulter doesn't have a history of saying things just to piss people off. There's a reason "inflammatory" is used so often to describe her. The catch is, this wasn't an event in the US with our very broad definition of "free speech." It was scheduled in Canada.
A seperate country. With it's own laws. It's own constitution. A narrower definition of freedom of speech where Coulter's usual statements that are protected here could cross legal lines there.
Canada is not "America Light" or a colony or protectorate of this country. Ann either doesn't seem to know that or expects to have diplomatic immunity.
The email was intended to help her keep out of trouble. If this is how she twists such an attempt at civility around, I say put her on a world tour, shield her from any further such pointers on local laws, and let her deal with the consequences of shooting off her mouth as she damn well pleases.
And, in the interest of acting on her opinions of big government, make sure we don't waste any Federal dollars bailing her bony ass out of any trouble she gets into as a result.
- 11 votes
I think it should be a crime if you don't hate ann coulter what a disgusting woman I hope she never breeds
- 5 votes
Cry me a river Coulter. Michael Savage was banned from Britain for his political views (and if I understand correctly he had/has never even been there). BANNED. He is on a list filled with serial murderers and Islamic extremist leaders - for being a Republican. By the way Republicans hate him to because he calls out his own party when necessary. The Republicans were conveniently absent when Savage asked for help to fight that. You get NO PITY FROM ME.
I don't think your comments about Muslims or Canadians were hate crimes... but neither is this.
- 3 votes
Anne Coulter: "I'm the victim of a hate crime"
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! POOOOOOOOOOOOOR little Annie! Waaaah! Waaah! Waaah! Just like her fellow neo-cons from the deepest parts of the sewer, she can dish it out just fine and dandy, but she sure as Hell can't take it! How does it feel to be on the other side of the fence now you vile, hypocrite bitch?
- 4 votes
I'm wondering what "identifiable group" she's a member of.
I dunno, I don't think the human race. She has the soul of an inanimate object.
- 6 votes
Man Coulter sure has one large Adam's Apple for a woman, anyone else ever notice??
Isn't Man complaining of a hate crime kinda like Satan calling someone too evil?
- 5 votes
There's a reason "inflammatory" is used so often to describe her..
I would also add:
ignorant
vile
repugnant
vomit-inducing
factually incorrect
hate-filled
racist
tranny
Satan-spawn
Soul-less
God-complex
idiot
fool
Among other things....
- 5 votes
Fired up? Ready to go!
Bring it... Party of war turned Party of No to Party of Hate.
Take a hard look Christians. Your moral majority ended today.
What happens to darkness when you turn on the lights?
And to think I used to listen to you guys. Your dinosaurs, your dangerous, and your wrong!
The resistance against 'W' will be a sweet dream.
We won't rest until every republican is voted out!
Country First hu?
The Uncivil War has begun...and we'll kill em' with kindness. ;o)
Yes We Can!
- 6 votes
I'm wondering what "identifiable group" she's a member of.
Proabably the Klu Klux Klan.
- 3 votes
PUHLEEZE...hate crime? Ask someone who has been a REAL victim of hate. Gays, minorities, women, who are beaten, degraded and even killed because they are who they are. Canada had every right to ask her to respect their culture. She is useless,
- 5 votes
@Rodney-889389,
"A vampire complaining about the taste of blood." TOO FUNNY, I loved it!
@GoldenGateMami-Susi,
"Chupacabra Squad." Sounds like a team of action heroes, LOVED this, too!
Personally, I think you're being too hard on poor Ann---but then, for some weird reason I think she's hot (to the eyes at least). Just surgically implant the earplugs and a bale of cotton so I don't have to listen to her talk! That someone who has spewed the kind of crap she has for all these years to turn around and claim to be the victim of a hate crime is hilarious.
Dave Chappelle couldn't come up with anything funnier than this.
Ann Coulter...victim of a hate crime in Canada. Un&!@#$@%believable!
- 2 votes
Nice to see the bitterness of the left come out...but the again Democrats are the reason the United States needed a civil rights bill
Way to go lefties showing all the compassion, just like the idiots you vote for, when they make hate crime bills here in the U.S.A.
- 1 vote
Another neo-con Republican fear-mongering pundit causing trouble with our strongest allies in the world, they just cannot stand any peace and continue to provoke everyone and anyone who may have a different value system than their own. They make me sick and are the biggest scourge and threat to any peace for any of us.
- 5 votes
Way to go lefties showing all the compassion, just like the idiots you vote for, when they make hate crime bills here in the U.S.A.
hey, I'm a lefty I've posted multiple times on this thread that I don't think people should be blaming the victim, we should encourage Ann to sue if she genuinely believes she's been victimized, take it to the highest court in the land if necessary.
then when it turns out she's NOT the victim as proven in a court of law, there will be yet one more bit of positive proof that she's full of sh*t, but we support her right to stand up for herself and whatever group she thinks she's part of that was being intimidated by this email.
- 1 vote
This is not a left or right issue. This is an issue of respecting and following the laws of another country. Were she in the US and this happened I would be the first to stand up for her and tell you all that is what makes america great is our ability to speak our minds with out persecution.
- 4 votes
Coulter hasn't been persecuted. She has, in fact, made a killing off of pushing the boundaries of freedom of speech-- if she didn't make outrageous statements, no one would know who the hell she is, and she wouldn't sell any books. She sure as hell isn't going to make her way in the world as a great thinker.
And in this case, she voluntarily canceled the speech. It wasn't out of fear, it wasn't because she's persecuted, and it certainly wasn't because she's the victim of a "hate crime."
- 7 votes
like all with a bully mentality, Ann insists she is the victim
- 2 votes
Wow! where do you lefties come up with this...dont you remember when your lefty congress was trying to get a hate crime bill passed...It's just like every other bill you pass that is supposed to serve the people...you forget about it when it no longer serves your interest...try pay-go...lasted a week was it?...the Democrat party has a two year history of hating people ...and the leopard still hasnt changed it spots...this all you are and will ever be...you have expanded from African Americans to everyone who doesnt agree with you...say what ever you need to say to make yourself feel better about who you are...but it doesnt change who you really are...we may be the party of No! but you are the party of Hate....next time some claims a crime has been committed show some compassion...whoops ...cant ask that your a Democrat....you are the part of Hate
Hey, you're still blathering, aren't you? I'm pretty sure if no one has shut you up, then all your bull@!$%# about "lefties" and "liberals" and "hate speech" is still just bull@!$%#.
Go sell crazy somewhere else, billy. We've had our fill, here.
- 4 votes
billy, please explain how Coulter being advised by citizens in another sovereign nation ( with its own laws ) that her usual style of commentary that's constitutionally protected in the US can get her in trouble by the laws of the nation she's visiting fits the definition of "hate crime". Seriously. I'm actually asking for you to present the logic in that.
You expect visitors from other countries to follow our laws when they're here or face penalties, how is it "hate" for a Canadian to help Coulter avoid trouble by informing her ( in a civil tone, no insults, slurs, or threats involved ) that she's expected to act within Canadian law while she's there?
- 7 votes
billy, prove it-- evidence, please -- JUST THE FACTS, Dude...
- 3 votes
Nice to see the bitterness of the left come out...but the again Democrats are the reason the United States needed a civil rights bill
Let's all read and consider this statement for a minute here.
Ok. Did you read it? Consider it? Wrap your head around it? Have you stopped shaking your head and laughing?
The bitterness of Lefties. That it's because of US we need CIVIL rights.
Ahem.
Gee, I rather enjoy being happy and hopeful and knowing my child will now be covered until she's 26. She may get easier access to more money for college she starts next Fall.
2 major stress areas. Alleviated. YES WE CAN.
My parents, who are both ill, have been lifted out of the damn doughnut hole and won't have to cut their pills in half to stretch them out. YES WE CAN.
My dad's Alzheimer's meds and my mom's diabetes meds won't be a "DO WE EAT OR TAKE OUR MEDS' situation anymore.
Oh and I AM SOOOOOOO GOD DAMMED BITTER about that! Can you tell how bitter I am?
So if this is bitterness. I'm rather enjoying being oh so BITTER.
Now. Here's a mirror. Take a lonnnnnnnnnnng, hard, look.
Do you see any Democrat throwing bricks? Shooting out windows? Threatening people and their families? Cutting propane lines? Calling the potential injury or worse of a congressman's brother "collateral damage?," spitting on and calling our political leaders @!$%#s, faggots and baby killers?
Sarah Palin callously using rifle cross hairs to signal the RELOADING against Democratic politicians.
Where are all the Left and Democrats doing all this?
And we're bitter?
No we are utterly DISGUSTED and ASHAMED that fellow Americans are this ugly, this hateful, this violent.
You are the UGLY American.
Hmm.
You see, where I come from, The United States of America, the behavior I just listed and is proven by audio and video, that shows the RIGHT fully engaged in that vile behavior egged on by it's leaders.
This comes from the morally and ethically bankrupt hearts and minds of the truly ignorant, hateful and bitter fringe that I thought only existed "Over there" in the mountains and caves and destroyed villages and towns of the Middle East.
- 4 votes
billy, please explain how Coulter being advised by citizens in another sovereign nation ( with its own laws ) that her usual style of commentary that's constitutionally protected in the US can get her in trouble by the laws of the nation she's visiting fits the definition of "hate crime". Seriously. I'm actually asking for you to present the logic in that.
You expect visitors from other countries to follow our laws when they're here or face penalties, how is it "hate" for a Canadian to help Coulter avoid trouble by informing her ( in a civil tone, no insults, slurs, or threats involved ) that she's expected to act within Canadian law while she's there?
Yosho, as a Canadian I want to say you spoke for me on that.
- 4 votes
Someone said way earlier that we should be respectful. To that I say NO. Respect is earned. She has done nothing to earn my respect and I will not show her any. in fact, IMO she has earned derision. All she does is spew hate, half truths, lies, and bigger lies. If a fact ever does come out of her mouth it is purely by accident, because she has no use for the truth in forming her opinion and spewing on the public discussions of the issues.
She gets no respect because she has not earned any.
- 2 votes
Rodney
I would laugh at Coulter if she wasn't so pathetic. The utter crap that comes out of her mouth is pure poison and she actually gets paid for her nastiness. I would say this about ANYONE, left or right, who behaved this way in a public and PAID forum. Her cutting words, distortion of the truth and outright lies tell the story. Even O'Rielly and a few others have facts to back up their opinion. Even though I rarely agree, I respect their search for truth (their truth) and not just utter crap like Ms. Coulter tries to pass off as fact.
The Right would be screaming if a individual from the left behaved the way Coulter does. I am a Centrist who leans socially left and have found no one to compare to Coulter and her hate speech. She can dish it out, but cries when it comes back to bite her on the a$$...poor, poor Coulter; what does she expect with her vicious attacks, unfounded personal name calling and her arrogant, smug attitude all packaged in a 1990's black cocktail dress? She spews her hate rhetoric and laughs all the way to the bank.
As a Canadian ex-patriot, I have experienced the vast differences in how political debate and opposition is handled. She was invited as a guest yet refused to respect the Canadian culture. Another way she shows her classless disrespect for others. Coulter is a sad and ridiculous character with no merit or credibility. The joke is on her...she is the joke. If anyone takes her seriously, then they need to do some soul searching. Instigating through name calling, skewed facts and made up rhetoric cannot be taken seriously in the American political arena. Maybe if we all ignore her, she'll fade away. We can hope. She is nothing but a flash in the pan and should never be taken seriously.
I say, let the Canadians keep her...although I feel awful doing that to my Country of birth. They can always set her afloat on a boat and let the oceans take her where she belongs...away from actual human beings and spend her life with her 'people'; Great White Sharks!
Persecuted my A$$!!!!!
- 1 vote
Gcm...too bad I cant take you back in Time to 1963 ....you obvioulsy dont remember ...9 of Sept...state police out in front of my school not letting African Americans in to the schools...yes your party is responsible...and what does any one do about thia.......even now still in denial mode...but I was there...The Democrats aqre the reason for the civil rights Bill...I would just like to see the left be civil on this take...that past is never the past...it is what colors your future
Bill, quit trying to pretend that Democrat/Republican has always been the same as liberal/conservative. In 1963, Democrats were the conservative party. We both know it. The problem is flaws in conservatism and liberalism, not party identifications.
As long as you fail to see that and keep living in the past, your comments will remain irrelevant.
- 3 votes
Billy,
you are assuming that anyone that now calls themselves a Democrat today would call themselves a Southern Dixiecrat post WW2. That is a big assumption and is blatantly false and obfuscating.
- 2 votes
Victim of a hate crime? You betcha. They hate you, Anne, and they don't want you at their school.
This kind of hate crime is not only legal, but commendable.
- 39 votes
And yet, didn't she oppose the hate crime bill that was proposed? Hmmm....
:)
E
- 33 votes
I was wondering if anyone would notice that. But in the article she does say that either she is a victim of a hate crime OR the Human Rights Commission is BS. I don't see that she is a victim of a hate crime by the definition. And I'm not sure she fits the definition of a human being either so does she have rights at all?
- 16 votes
And I'm not sure she fits the definition of a human being either so does she have rights at all?
So anyone you disagree with isn't human? Hmm. That actually works for me. Then that means there's nothing wrong with sticking all assumed terrorists in front of a firing squad without trial, tribunal, or rights. I don't consider terrorists human.
- 4 votes
And yet, didn't she oppose the hate crime bill that was proposed?
She probably did, but I bet now she'll want to add a new protected class to the bill: nasty-ass hags.
- 16 votes
Hi Dame Q - just responding to one of your earlier posts up top: The intent of the email wasn't to accuse her of a crime, it was to WARN her that her typical presentation IS considered a crime in Canada ... they were doing her a favor, not making a threat. Relax. Let me know if you'd like to see the Webster Legal Dictionary's definition of "hate crime", and I'll re-post it. Have a good one...
Peace
- 21 votes
Let me know if you'd like to see the Webster Legal Dictionary's definition of "hate crime", and I'll re-post it. Have a good one...
Perhaps you'd better clean your glasses because I disagreed with AC.
So your post is 100% irrelevant.
- 3 votes
Dame, we don't have to go far to see hatred, do we? Just look at the hatred thrown at Coulter here.
- 3 votes
Dame, we don't have to go far to see hatred, do we? Just look at the hatred thrown at Coulter here.
Isn't it the cons that like to spout out something from a book written by men (that they claim to be the word of something imaginary) to the effect of "Ye reap as ye shall sow?"
- 8 votes
No, Dame Q, not because she disagrees with me. Many people I love and respect disagree with me. Not one of them, however, ever humiliated a Muslim student by suggesting she take a flying carpet as transportation. Nor did any of them insult a Jewish talk show host by belittling his religion TO HIS FACE on camera. Nor did any of them suggest that the 9/11 widows welcomed the deaths of their spouses. Shall I go on or do you get my drift? The "milk of human kindness" is unknown to Ann Coulter. She is a cruel creature.
- 14 votes
Dame 2.6
It may be hard to believe, but as long as comments follow the CoH, all are relevent, even if you strongly disagree with the comment.
Cece in CT's comment was not only relevent, but accurate.
- 5 votes
Just look at the hatred thrown at Coulter here.
Ya get what you give.
And when you're some soul-less neocon, it's nothing, but hate.
- 2 votes
Typical lefties...showing exactly who you are ...you are no different than your predecessors like George Wallace, or Lester Maddox...you know Lester Maddox...The Governor , that Jimmy Carter praised.....Welll thanks for taking me back to 1963.....What is the truth....A leopard never changes his spots...this is the real Democrat Party....watch as the healthcare hits anther snag...legality and how the Democrat party behaves...we will need another civil rights bill after all this is done, thanks to Democrats again...For those of In America who have benefitted from civil rights...beware of whom you politically support...this is your party of hate....always has been...Good job lefties...It is September 1963 again
Dude, why don't you join all of the rest of us in the 21st century?
- 6 votes
Billy
Are all of those '....' instances representative of you hyperventilating?
Gotta love the baseless leap of faith assumptions which form Billy's entire misguided point too.
Billy-witchdoctor - wasn't there someone else named Billy at some point? Oh yeah, Billy the Kid; and he was a murderer. Thus, it's obvious that Billy.witchdoctor is a murderer as well because we all know Billy's can't change their spots.
Oh my, a doctor as well?? As in Kevorkian.
- 2 votes
Ah, so you're just trolling. Got it. In the spirit of your post...
Dude: You can lead an whore to culture, but you can't make her think. (and if that's too subtle for you, cockmuffin, that means "@!$%# you, @!$%#.")
- 8 votes
Slapfight derail anatomy.
Typical lefties...showing exactly who you are
This could refer to the students at Ottawa or Houle, I guess, but then it's all about Democrats, which is at the least a little off-topic.
Dude, why don't you join all of the rest of us in the 21st century?
Not brimming with respect, but addressing the comment.
I may be drunk, but you are ugly
Weird historical insult.
cockmuffin, that means "@!$%# you, @!$%#.")
And full-on mix-and-match genitalia-to-item insult.
billy-witchdoctor-com and iarnuocon, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
- 4 votes
Ann coulter, Is a Hate Crime, jmo
- 34 votes
The only hate I see here is from the left...you get the Presidency , control of Congress and nothing pours out but hate, ...one stupid lefty wrote an article on the 1898 wilmington riotss and how Democrats did not want to be ruled by African Americans which wound up with over 25 people dead....
The Dangers of Revolutionary Right-Wing Rhetoric
Nothing but hate it...is what the Democrats have been when you argued that "Chattel slavery was for the good of God and endorsed in the Constitution"....it is just a manipulation of the Constitution, same as what they are doing now to pass healthcare...and spewing out their hate again....and all the while telling that the leopard has changed his spots....isnt going to happen
Way to go ..wasnt your party the one to pass a Hate crime bill....yes but one that Protected only certain people...segartion in laws again...it is why you claim to only tax a certain segment of the population ...segregation of taxes....you hating lefties are nothing but a bunch of Lester Maddox clones.
billy witch doctor, are you really citing Democrats from 1898? These days they would be Republicans. Anyone speaking the truth would admit that the compositions of both parties has switched.
- 5 votes
billy witch doctor, are you really citing Democrats from 1898?
Thats kinda current for a repuglican. Most of them think it's pre civil war. 1850 or so.
- 4 votes
billy witch doctor, are you really citing Democrats from 1898?
how about a lefty on newsvine just a few months ago....
There ia your link to a lefties who uses the point that Democrats who did not want African Americans to postions of power so they killed 25 of them in 1898...to say right wing rhetoric is dangerous...so from a lefties point of view this would vbe very acceptable to reference 1898...also very ingnorant when using an air america article that is false...so will provide the official state report fot the article also:
www.history.ncdcr.gov/1898-wrrc
welcome to the world of your ingnorance... if you paid attention you would know your lrfty buddies brought up this issue first on the vine....and actually wrote an article about how republicans are bad because Democrats killed African Americans so just to remiind you why you are the "Party of Hate"...here is what else your people say:
" The only thing more ridiculous than a black Republican is a gay Republican"
Billy, billy, billy... seriously. It's dangerous to your health to go through life this quintessentially unable to reason. Follow the argument, if you can. I'll try to make it really simple. 1898 Democrats were "right wing." 1898 Republicans were "liberal." Once you wrap your head around those two facts, things should start to become slightly more clear for you.
Right wing rhetoric in 1898 was bad (and happened to be coming from Democrats). Right wing rhetoric today is bad (and happens to be coming from Republicans).
Capisce?
- 5 votes
I will make really simple for you...since you dont get this....A leopard cant change his spots...your Party created the american holocaust and you want to deny that you are of that party...that is your history...you can deny it all you want...but you belong to that party so that is you..When you join a group you get their history...and unlike you...my party has the heritage you now want to claim as yours but you cant, it is not yours.
In 1898 Democrts tried to control African americans...if you read the article from it tells you how:
A year ago, Wilmington community leaders such as District Attorney Ben David helped launch a reconciliation campaign to restore interracial trust and move beyond blame and defensiveness toward healing. It is a slow process
So they are still dealing with the crap your party caused and all you can says is what? Democrats were right wing?....Here ... Follow thw argument if you can.....We dont support those ideals...you wanted white supremacy and now pretend that you are not that party...yet Wilmington still deals with the effects of what you have done...you are the Democrat party who tried to control people and force your will upon the people.....Now you are passing a healthcare bill where most polls show that the majority do not want this healthcare bill and you are doing it any way, added with fines if you dont follow the rules...effectively again forcing you will upon people, which is not better for the people and not what this country is about, except from your standpoint as a lefty...mind you that would not tell you what is in the bill and that they did try put in a clause for not being able to repeal the law and no contingency plans for failure.. I say this leopard has not changed his spots!
- 1 vote
A leopard cant change his spots...
are you suggesting that the spots actively choose to be on the leopard much in the same way that people choose a political party?
hmmm,
I was always under the impression that the spots were the product of evolution, like, they help the leopard be a better hunter and increase his chances of survival; if conditions changed, then leopards with fewer or no spots, or different kinds of spots as appropriate would evolve, and thus the leopard actually DOES change his spots in the larger sense.
how often does the leopard have a convention with his spots to talk about their mission, platform, vision etc?
This should be pretty easy to explain, since you've already made it so simple, huh?
- 1 vote
it is simple you are using the question to deflect from that actual issue ,...you are a Democrat ..you have one the most viiolent racial histories in the world for a civilized nation and a political party and you want to argue a point over leopard spots.....I am sorry the the rectacranial inversion you have does not allow you to talk about actual issues, but if you were capable we would not call you lefty,/ liberal/ populist/ progressive/ communist/ socialist/ .......
and simply put the Leopard does not change his spots.... evolotion does....but you are a Democrat and in 200 years plus of history you have not evolved enough to get past trying to control indivuals, first you argue for slavery...forced labor...now for forced healthcare.... yep it is that simple...you deny ...next time try Blaming George Bush...Now there is an original though...I bet that would use all of the expertise you have...I bet your friends would call you a genius, because nobody would think of that...the only hope you have is evolution...and when evolution came along politically...It started with Hiram Rhodes Revels, the 14th, 15th, and 16th ammendments which you and your Democrat Party still fights today...
The spots dont have a choice and neither do you when it come to Healthcare now.....try saying no!
Creative with the intent to divert from the real issue...grade D+ should be happy you get that much credit
- 1 vote
..your Party created the american holocaust and you want to deny that you are of that party..
Last night I just happened to re-watch Schindler's List, and I do resent your trivializing the Holocaust. It's a short step from there to historical revisionism.
- 1 vote
and simply put the Leopard does not change his spots.... evolotion does
so the party that once included the racist south signed into law civil rights and jettisoned the south for a generation, to paraphrase Lyndon Johnson, that doesn't count as evolution?
interesting.
- 1 vote
sms,
Not only is Billy citing 1898 Democrats, he is CITING 1898 South Carolina Democrats. Why not just go back to the days before the civil war? If he wanted to bring it up to date he would have to cite Robert Byrd, Saxby Chambliss, Shelby, DeMint, The Lt. Gov. of SC, etc. Even Byrd renounced his youthful positions.
- 1 vote
you should take a history lesson and a geography lesson and also read the democratic handbook of 1898...and think these are my people...i am a democrat tooo!
Still flogging this sorry horse@!$%#, billy?
You should take a history lesson and a geography lesson and read the Democratic handbook of 1898 and think "these are conservatives... they're my people... I am a conservative, too!"
There. Fixed that for you.
- 3 votes
AHHHHH, Poor little Ann, she is mad that the boy ranters are getting all the attention, she wants equal time and attention. Equality for all ranters! Please write something about Ann so she can feel wanted again.
- 26 votes
@Vlad's dog,
I have some suggestions how Ann could get some attention for herself, but unfortunately there's no
point in posting them... they'd just get deleted and I'd get banned. Deservedly so, too.
Coulter, is the victim of a hate crime every time she looks in a mirror, even when it doesn't crack.
- 22 votes
Hello Ann..C-A-N-A-D-A is not the U.S.A.!
You must abide by a foreign countries laws when in said foreign country! Don't like that? Stay home!
- 29 votes
Stay home!
No! Can't she at least go to Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan and share her views there?? I'm sure they'd be very interested in what she has to say.
- 23 votes
No! Can't she at least go to Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan and share her views there??
Wherever she goes, can we just keep her from coming back in when she tries to come home? This is probably why the U of Ontario cancelled her speech - they were afraid they'd have to keep her.
- 21 votes
No! Can't she at least go to Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan and share her views there?? I'm sure they'd be very interested in what she has to say.
Well, Saudi Arabia doesn't believe women should vote so she should get along famously there.
- 19 votes
She steps foot in any Muslim nation and opens that trap of hers.......
LOL she'll be stoned to death.
She thinks protesting students in Canada constitutes a 'hate crime?'
Oh she has noooooooo idea.
- 27 votes
I like the idea of Coulter going to Saudi Arabia... her being covered from head to toe is the best way to view her.
BTW, I love how the reich-wingers squeal like stuck little piggies when they are on the receiving end of the same type of treatment that they promote against others.
Schadenfreude baby!
- 14 votes
I think she'd have a little more respect for what liberals have done for women in this country after spending a week in a burka.
- 20 votes
Well said WeRdoomed! Very well said! Fully agree!
*smiles*
~Sara
- 11 votes
#66:I think she'd have a little more respect for what liberals have done for women in this country after spending a week in a burka.
No, No, Nope she wouldn't! You see friend, you are trying to speak logical -which is "foreign in nature" to people of Ann's ilk. So, whereas I can and do appreciate the thought- FORGET IT in this case! Respect? what's that? a new fungus? This turd would not even begin to understand where you are coming from!
- 9 votes
How can she have more respect for anything done on behalf of women?
When she doesn't even know if she is one or not....as as a matter of fact neither do we.
We dont know what species of mammalia she mutated from.
- 8 votes
When she doesn't even know if she is one or not....as as a matter of fact neither do we.
I would hate to be the one assigned to verifying it one way or another. (shudder).
- 5 votes
LOL RDS
Can you imagine drawing the short straw on that?
I second that shudder and raise you a EESH!
- 6 votes
I would hate to be the one assigned to verifying it one way or another. (shudder).
Suddenly I feel like Ace Ventura when he realizes Einhorn is Finkel......
- 1 vote
@ GoldenGateMami-Susi and R. Donald Snyder,
Okay, I volunteer. But I want $20 million bucks---$15 mil in gold, $3 mil in euros and the rest in US dollars---and free unlimited psychological counseling because my PTSD might start acting up again and I'll probably wind up having to take some serious dope in order to cope (which also have to be free).
- 3 votes
How about we just give you a haz-mat suit and a barf bag along with the lifetime psychological counseling?
And maybe the ability to erase your mind of what you encounter?
LOL
;)
- 2 votes
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Please, let her go out of the country. The average IQ level will go up by at least 100 points on that alone.
@GoldenGateMami,
How about partial-mind erasure, the hazmat suit and a pension? After all, we are talking about some potentially serious horror here. It'd be cool if i didn't have to spend the rest of my life facing into a corner and screaming---and I'm anticipating having some trouble holding a job.
Throw in the pension, and I'll buy my own drugs.
What say you?
Are we sure she's not really a man ? Or a transvestite ? Or an entirely new species ?
I definitely see what I believe to be an Adam's Apple in the photo in the article.
Oh and she's a walking hate-crime.
Maybe we should put her on the plane with Rush
I can't believe I just gave her some of the attention she so desperately craves...
<hangs head in shame>
- 16 votes
She is claiming she is hated because she displays hatred. Yeah, I can see it. (Dumb ass)
- 18 votes
10:She is claiming she is hated because she displays hatred. Yeah, I can see it. (Dumb ass)
Yeah? And what part of that doesn't she understand? Isn't that normally how people feel about a hater?
- 7 votes
Coulter is just a bridge lurking troll
Hey MaryEllen, Since you liked my last comment, I turned it into an article. I just hope Newsvine post it. Take care.
- 2 votes
Quit being a crybaby Ann. Did anyone bash your head for being a certain color or creed? Negative. You're hated due to your blatant ignorance. Wah wah...
- 18 votes
Yea! She can dish it out but she can't take it. If she could only see herself as others view her, what a shock she would get, right?
- 13 votes
Then pursue it. File a complaint.
- 18 votes
AMEN!
she should most definitely file a suit and she should draw as much attention to it as absolutely possible. I'll even do my part by paying attention to the whole circus, and commenting on NV where applicable.
If she genuinely believes it, she should follow through and seek justice.
otherwise she's a coward, I say.
I promise I'll fully respect her for seeking justice if she chooses to do so.
I'll continue to disrespect her for everything else, but for seeking justice, she'll get my respect.
- 15 votes
Well the very fact that we can gleefully picture the trouble Ann would get into in a court of law having to defend herself with actual facts and knowledge of real law... just tells you it won't happen.
She wouldn't even face the protesters or the horde of people who suddenly wanted to attend her presentation in Ottawa. She wasn't banned or shut out as she claims - she cut and run to FOX-friendly Calgary.
At no time was she charged with anything or stopped from saying anything or going anywhere. She made 2 of 3 planned appearances at $10,000 a pop. If that's a hate crime, somebody please victimize me.
- 2 votes
Knocks on monitor.......hellloooooooooo Ann? Anyone home in that vacuum you call a brain?
Now, why would your take your Party of NO, Party of can't diatribes to a nation who CAN(ada) embarrass your silly ass and obviously had no problem forcing you into the CAN of whine?
Face it, eh?
You've been CANnned & CANcelled.
:)
- 21 votes
Ann--"You brought that on yourself!" All you do is go around spreading hate and discontent -- In this world 'YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW' is not just a slogan.
- 13 votes
No good blaming the victim here,
she's a jerk, but if she feels she was wronged, she should seek justice.
$10 says she won't and she's just fishing for publicity, but...
- 10 votes
No good blaming the victim here
Of what is she a victim? There was no hate crime committed. There was no crime committed. Sure, she can use the phrase "hate crime" to describe what happened to her to score a political point in an attempt to point out what she feels to be a hypocrisy, but I don't need to support her if I don't believe in her cause, which, in this scenario, is pointless. Glibly calling this a "hate crime" doesn't make it a hate crime.
She's a victim of nothing.
- 8 votes
Of what is she a victim? There was no hate crime committed.
well, she claims there was, and it's for a court to decide, not us.
meanwhile I think regarding this one issue, she deserves to be treated like anyone else who claims to be a crime victim.
and then laughed at when it's revealed that she's full of sh*t.
- 4 votes
she claims there was, and it's for a court to decide, not us.
Very well... she can claim it. And when the court refuses to hear it because the case has no merit, she can then be
laughed at when it's revealed that she's full of sh*t.
=) On this it seems we agree.
- 7 votes
the thing is that if you notice the postings of the right wingnuters here and people like coulter black people and other minorities should be dissuaded from using the word "racist"and even talking about persecution. conversely they causually toss the word (and inaccurately) racist far more than any minority poster. when confronted about their selfish, greedy, biased, and bigoted politics whine about being persecuted more than any minority. they act as if they are in some perverse universe and behave in a manner posing as the only ones who have the right to use the term and have the protections.
- 3 votes
kappa,
It sucks when one goes to merely having equal rights. That is the explanation for the reaction to the term entitlements, too. When everyone has them by law they are no longer special.
Ann Coulter is a Sadist and a Machoist..
Her Machoist self looks in the mirror to her Sadist side.
and says
"HIT ME"
then her Machoist side
says impishly
"NOoooo"
- 8 votes
To bad her mom never aborted her...
- 5 votes
#17.1:Heretic that crossed the line
I agree. I just think she is totally confused, grossly hateful and doesn't love herself, but imo, everyone on God's earth deserves birth if it is the will of Mother Nature.
- 5 votes
everyone on God's earth deserves birth if it is the will of Mother Nature.
I agree. Even the California condor that Ann so closely resembles has its place in the natural order.
- 2 votes
Anyone noticed that Coulter got a BOOB JOB..
Just look at her face, nose, eyes and ears..
She is Buldging..
- 3 votes
Ann Coulter is a defective, cheaply made GOP 'toy.'
When they made her they forgot to include intelligence, integrity and self-awareness and instead overloaded her with ego and ignorance.
She is a victim of her own petard.
- 10 votes
Kind of like those toys that are supposed to turnaround when they get to the edge of the table. I think someone forgot the sensor and she fell on her head.
- 8 votes
Reddirthippy
Now that's hafrigginlarious! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GuPYVxpWAk&feature=related
- 8 votes
That first one looks too much like her,,,.
I must have missed Hartless giving that speech.
- 2 votes
She needs a personality / mentality makeover. No surgery can fix that, to make her look or act decently.
- 2 votes
I do not like a lot of what i read here or hear everyday but I believe in Public and this is not a public forum, but in public everyone should have the right to speak.
If you do not like this womans words then do not go to hear her speak.
- 1 vote
Nobody stopped Ann Coulter from speaking. She cancelled her own show.
- 2 votes
"...I therefore encourage you to educate yourself, if need be, as to what is acceptable...."
Coulter should get this lesson in manners before she opens her mouth - period.
- 14 votes
So sue bitch.
- 9 votes
there [sic] so funny and respectful.
Respect? Like saying "f*****" and "n*****" while spitting at congressmen?
- 12 votes
24.2:Respect? Like saying "f*****" and "n*****" while spitting at congressmen?
Exactly! Pot meet kettle!
- 9 votes
there [sic] so funny and respectful.
Respect? Like saying "f*****" and "n*****" while spitting at congressmen?
Wow, your so clever, please provide me an audio or video link of this actually happening?
Wow, your so clever, please provide me an audio or video link of this actually happening?
We'll have it spooled up as soon as you show us the stockpiles of Iraqi WMDs we've found.
- 3 votes
Please provide me an audio or video line of this actually happening?
Chuck, is that your defense of these low-lifes? You fit right in with the rest of the GOP and Tea-partiers that aren't brave enough or decent enough to denounce these so-called "Real Americans" who are nothing but a virus to normal society.
- 3 votes
please provide me an audio or video link of this actually happening? It's been all over the news. Where've you been?
- 6 votes
Chuck will just say that is the drive-by media's take on the story. Right Chuck? It's called the head in the sand defense. Repukes use it all the time.
- 3 votes
B.L. Frazer (NYC)
Chuck will just say that is the drive-by media's take on the story. Right Chuck? It's called the head in the sand defense. Repukes use it all the time.
No, what I would say is I do not condole violence against any American not matter their political stance belief, sexual orientation or race. I was commenting on the claim that the senator was called the N word. I saw or heard no audio of this happening. I did see the congressman angry reaction, so I do believe something was said to him that he did not like.
Guys threats of violence like this is not a subject we should be taking lightly or politicizing. This bill and the many to follow I'm sure will only escalate such threats. I hope you guys sit back ant contemplate is it worth introducing bills that cannot deliver what they promise just to score political wins?
We won't have a country where we can have these debates if it goes up in smoke due to civil unrest.
Just something to think about.
I think it's worth introducing bills that deliver what they deliver. Whether or not what they deliver is what we want remains an open question, and working toward seeing that they do is the job for which we elect politicians.
What seems to be happening these days, however, is that a certain segment of the population feels affronted if all legislation doesn't cater to their narrow whims-- and they seem more than willing to break the law, counsel others to break the law, and issue threats in pursuit of getting what they want.
Oh, and they occasionally throw tantrums in public.
Just sayin'.
- 4 votes
Chuck,
I have listened to her spew @!$%# for years while disrespecting the rights of others to serve her own greedy ass. She has earned no respect and I give her what she has earned as a pimple on the ass of humanity. And I use the term humanity loosely.
oh my. Ann has never made me giggle before! should i be concerned??
- 8 votes
Nope but she should be.
The more people laugh at her the more she'll become a walking, talking, irrelevant joke.
At the rate she's going it wont be long.
:)
- 12 votes
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