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Assumptions About People With Tattoos-POLL

Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:56 PM EDT
odd-news, opinion, society, lawyers, tattoo, tattoos, bankers, trouble, bikers, ex-convicts, assuptions
By maddad

Live Poll

What do you think when you see someone with a multiple of tattoos?

View Results
  • 89445
    steer clear
    12%
  • 89446
    nice work
    46%
  • 89447
    there's a nut
    19%
  • 89448
    cool
    23%

VoteTotal Votes: 168

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I have come across a couple of strange stories lately that imply that people with tattoos are more likely to be troubled, legally and otherwise. As someone with over 17 tats of my own, I was just wondering if these assumptions held any water?

For the un-inked, Do you have certain beliefs about people when you see they have tattoos? Why?

Tattooing is one of the oldest art forms and has been done for a very long time. We are not all ex-cons or outlaw bikers. Some of us work in banks, we are doctors, lawyers and the average joe/jane.

What is your take on Tats?

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maddad

thanks for your time and comments.

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:57 PM EDT
Lissa Rose

I love the art that is on the woman in the top pic!

  • 5 votes
#1.1 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:43 PM EDT
ruthlessmoose

agreed, very nice!

  • 3 votes
#1.2 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:35 PM EDT
DaVoH

She could've at least moved her hands out of the way...

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:35 AM EDT
Lissa Rose

Hmmmm... Trying to get the full effect, huh, DaVoH?

Would make a really nice picture, I bet, but I like this one better.

  • 1 vote
#1.4 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:36 AM EDT
YaddaYadda

I think tattoos can be beautiful if the person doing them is truly an artist. I couldn't take the pain, though! I've seen some really bad, BAAAAD tattoos...fugly, as in the artist should be shot kind of fugly...

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:47 AM EDT
Lissa Rose

Yup, Yadda!

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:02 PM EDT
Uncommon Sensibility

Here is my OPINION, along with repeated rhetoric:

1) Hang a picture on your wall ... not your body. So many bodies are scarred and damaged that the appearance of pristine skin should not be savaged by ink du jour.

2) Nickname: Tramp Stamp. I didn't invent it, but I've heard plenty of people agree with it.

3) Tastes change over time. So do beliefs. Be careful to make yours permanent.

4) So you want to express your individuality? Have you looked at the numbers of people seeking tattoos? You're one of many; hardly an individual anymore. You should be saying, "I want to fit in." More appropriate.

5) You have just made your kidneys off limits for loved ones for ... two (?) years. Hope you're never in need yourself, only to get turned down for that very reason.

6) The ink fades, and eventually your tattoo will just look like a big, ugly bruise.

For those who feel they would like to tell me what to do with my opinion, I never expected it to be contagious. And I have equally strong opinions about hair dye, piercing, and heavy makeup, and I've heard plenty of dissention there (read: what is a plastic apple? Something that looks perfect but is, in fact, an illusion.)

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:34 PM EDT
thelyamhound

I'll avoid addressing the strictly aesthetic arguments, since there's no accounting for taste, and the one about the kidneys is actually worth thinking about. As to those that speak more to philosophy . ..

1) Hang a picture on your wall ... not your body. So many bodies are scarred and damaged that the appearance of pristine skin should not be savaged by ink du jour.

Or the fact that our bodies are scarred and damage speaks to the proper view of the body--that it is best defined, or seen in light of, the ways in which it is incidentally or deliberately marked, damaged, defaced.

2) Nickname: Tramp Stamp. I didn't invent it, but I've heard plenty of people agree with it.

Well, the best of us are tramps, of a sort.

4) So you want to express your individuality? Have you looked at the numbers of people seeking tattoos? You're one of many; hardly an individual anymore. You should be saying, "I want to fit in." More appropriate.

Are the numbers of those with tattoos greater than those without? One could just as easily say that one refrains from tattooing to "fit in."

Individuality--like diversity--is something we think of as an asserted property or a prescriptive value, when it's really just a description of an extant (some might say inevitable) phenomenon. The notion that someone is more "individual" (or "individualistic") than another is usually folly.

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:40 PM EDT
Uncommon Sensibility

One could just as easily say that one refrains from tattooing to "fit in".

Touche. But we don't say we refrain from tattooing ourselves to show our own individuality. It's a defense mechanism that kicks in when the notion of becoming inked enters the unenlightened. Rarely have I heard somebody cite their reasonings as "I feel an urge to advertise my love for ... yada yada yada."

Case in point: Daughter, Tina: "I'm thinking about getting a tattoo."

Me: "Where?"

Tina: "On my back."

Me: "Of what?"

Tina: "I don't know."

Me: "Then, why?"

Tina: "Because I want to be different."

Me: "From what?"

Tina: "From my friends."

Me: "Not while you're under my care."

Tina: (whining) "But WHY? All my FRIENDS have them!" (she takes after her dad :) )

  • 1 vote
#1.9 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:10 PM EDT
Lissa Rose

LOL! I love that skit. FYI, my father-in-law has my mother-in-law's and my husband's name tattooed on his arm as a symbol of his love, but he was in his upper teens/lower 20's when he got married, had my husband and got the tattoos. Nearly 30 years later, they still look pretty good. Yeah, they are faded and only minutely stretched, but a person knows exactly what they say and the colors and shape. I think he did it because he knew his dad would have disapproved if he still lived at home. My husband grew his hair long because he knew his parents would disapprove. (I stayed out of it!)

  • 3 votes
#1.10 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:46 PM EDT
thelyamhound

One might, in seeking to be "different," wish merely to be different from one is at the moment.

Other than that, I see what you're getting at. Having tattoos is certainly not, in itself, much of an act of individuality, though what one chooses to mark one's body with might be.

As I've always said, the true non-conformist does what he wants . . . even if it's what everyone else is doing.

  • 2 votes
#1.11 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:24 PM EDT
Summer-1597193

Everyone has their own tastes. I love my tats; I never considered them trying to express myself or as trying to fit in. Rather, they have personal meaning to me.

  • 1 vote
#1.12 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:34 PM EDT
CaptainObviousSays

, they have personal meaning to me.

and can be used to identify the body/stain on the road if I leave my ID at home... LOL

    #1.13 - Tue Nov 2, 2010 1:57 AM EDT
    Reply
    Skallywag-572756Deleted
    OBlauren

    If your tat is a piece of art or a memory or something that that individual hold close to them, then I love it, if it's a stupid star or design with no meaning or purpose, then I don't believe its worth it

    • 6 votes
    Reply#3 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:11 PM EDT
    jamithy1

    what if you just like the way it looks? I don't think it always has to have some "deep" meaning behind it.

    The world would be pretty boring if people all looked the same, the variety is what makes life interesting ;)

    Now I think tattoos on the hands and face are "risky" but that is only because of the fact that there are those out there who will make assumptions about you based on them, thereby limiting possible job opportunities etc. But I think they can be beautiful, they can tell a story or they can just be decorative. Like I said, I like a world where everyone doesn't look just like me.

    • 3 votes
    #3.1 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:19 PM EDT
    CaptainObviousSays

    If your tat is a piece of art or a memory or something that that individual hold close to them, then I love it

    my tat used to just be art.

    when my wife got a identical tat..
    then it became love

    and then we got divorced...
    now what?
    should I cut it off?
    of me? or her?

    LOL

    cheers
    :)

    • 1 vote
    #3.2 - Mon Nov 1, 2010 11:37 PM EDT
    Reply
    Jim420

    I didn't vote because you can't make a blanket judgbment about tattoos. I would check a different box depending on the person, a cute dophin tattoo on an ankle is way different from a swaztika on the forehead........ choices b & d for the dolphin choice a & c for the swastica

    there are so many different examples most I think are artful and expressive of the person, but some of them, especially, the gang and prison ones.. are scary, but I guess that's the intent

    • 4 votes
    Reply#4 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:37 PM EDT
    Lissa Rose

    Good point and agreed.

    I was thinking in terms of writing in the tattoos, but I voted based on the majority of the tats I have actually seen in person. I think they are cool, and I may consider getting one someday. (I just have to work past the whole deal with the needles. I used to be ok with needles until I got older. Isn't that funny how that one worked out?)

    • 3 votes
    #4.1 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:47 PM EDT
    Mcal70

    I kind of like the idea of gang members getting tattoos. It doesn't scare me simply because it makes them easier to pick them out of a crowd and can therefore keep a closer eye on them.

    • 4 votes
    #4.2 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:34 PM EDT
    lilgremlin

    Mcal70

    Wow good point about gang/prison tats!

    • 2 votes
    #4.3 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:24 AM EDT
    Reply
    dollyrocker98

    Sorry....but I just don't find tattoos appealing or attractive. For me it is, and always has been, a BIG turn off.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#5 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:49 PM EDT
    Sara G.

    dollyrocker98, I agree.

    I dislike tattoos...vehemently. Why? I have worked in nursing homes, I see what they become, and they are a rather sad documentary of that persons life, I think. So many people have them today, that I do not judge them, while it used to be bikers and their biker babes, or service men with them...now even the darling little girl down the street has what I have heard called a "tramp stamp"....do you wonder why it's called that? *shrugs*

    Every picture tells a story, I think there is a bigger story behind the person that feels a need to hide behind tattoos.

    That's just my opinion, your milage may vary.

    • 3 votes
    #5.1 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:07 PM EDT
    thelyamhound

    I have worked in nursing homes, I see what they become, and they are a rather sad documentary of that persons life, I think.

    Sadder than the body itself? It all seems, to me, to be an ongoing record of entropy--not sad in and of itself, necessarily.

    Every picture tells a story, I think there is a bigger story behind the person that feels a need to hide behind tattoos.

    As opposed to hiding behind clothing, hair, rank, social status, or other neo-tribal designation?

    • 7 votes
    #5.2 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:22 PM EDT
    alkimija

    now even the darling little girl down the street has what I have heard called a "tramp stamp"....do you wonder why it's called that?

    Allegedly they became popular first among porn actresses who wanted to be recognized even when they weren't facing the cameras.

    • 2 votes
    #5.3 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:00 PM EDT
    Jim420

    A tramp stamp, is a tattoo on the small of the back, usually extending well below the waistling, thus only a tramp wears pants or skirt low enough and shirt cut high enough to show the tattoo,

    • 4 votes
    #5.4 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:45 PM EDT
    TestAnxiety

    Re: Tramp Stamp-

    Summed up in the movie "Wedding Crashers" with the following line: "It might as well be a bullseye."

    • 2 votes
    #5.5 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:41 PM EDT
    MMMMelissa

    now even the darling little girl down the street has what I have heard called a "tramp stamp"....do you wonder why it's called that? *shrugs*

    I have a "tramp stamp" to me whats sexy about it is I'm the only one that knows its there. I don't wear trashy clothes, I don't bend over in public to have it on display, its only for me. I don't judge anyone with tattoo's. I'm about to get my second one on my foot. If you want to pass judgment on me because of it, guess what, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Strangers or even family/friends whoever, if they want to say something about it I have no problems telling whoever where to go and how to get there.

    I also read an article awhile back that said people with tattoos have "low self esteem" How hilarious. The really humoring thing about that article was all the doctors and lawyers leaving comments about how they have complete sleeves and other tattoos and they are professionals.

    • 2 votes
    #5.6 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:40 PM EDT
    redshadowwithgreenbackground

    The only thing I think when I see someone with a tattoo is, He has a tattoo. I would nmever get one but I also would not eat snails. To each his/her own.

    • 2 votes
    #5.7 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:57 PM EDT
    beej mcl

    well, i've eaten snails before, but a tat i don't have. like so many have said, some tats are great and beautiful. but some are just junk that some people feel that they have to have in order to fit in with their crowd. if i ever get one, i think it would be my grandchildrens names put near to my heart. for me it would need to mean something special but i'm not against the beauty that many have adorned themselves with body art.

    btw, snails are really quite good.

    • 3 votes
    #5.8 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:43 AM EDT
    Uncommon Sensibility

    The other things I think of when I see tattoos are: 1) who did the one we CAN'T see and 2) what ELSE would they be willing to do to draw attention to themselves?

    With that, I add: my friend Jodi had a tattoo placed on her heart on her 41st birthday when her 6th pregnancy resulted in a live birth ... for 5 hours. Matthew's initials are inside a broken heart. Her pain needed to be tangible and her memory permanent. I don't find it attractive, but I can understand the sentiment behind it.

    • 2 votes
    #5.9 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:45 PM EDT
    Reply
    islandgirl-382087

    I find anything permanent to be scary be it tats, marriage, scars, records LOL.

    But seriously, when I met my husband for the first time it was in the winter so he wearing jeans and long sleeves, later in our relationship I saw him without all those clothes and it nearly took my breath away. I had no idea he had tats (or so many and looked like an under ocean theme) but I knew what kind of person he was before I actually ever saw the tats, so yeah I kept him. I did wonder though about his lack of ability to comprehend moderation.

    Personally I don't care for them but I won't neccesarily judge someone for having them unless of course like it was stated above they are of the jailhouse, gang, swastika etc. variety.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#6 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:54 PM EDT
    LogicalAbsurdity

    I look at them as works of art displayed on peoples bodies. They can be beautiful, or like "modern art" they can be crap, they can be full of meaning, or they can have no thought behind them. There are currently two tattoos that I want to get, but I'm hesitant because I want to make sure they don't turn out like "modern art". I'd love to get some huge picture that takes up most of my back like in some of the pictures up there, but I'm not too keen on being partially naked in some tattoo parlor. I'd really like to get the same tattoo that my boyfriend has.

    In short, I don't think tattoos make or shape a person- they just might advertise what they believe in.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#7 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:00 PM EDT
    Joanna Caroll

    As the old saying goes, you can't judge a book by its cover. Similarly, you can't judge a person's character or lack thereof by tattoos.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#8 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:10 PM EDT
    thelyamhound

    Well . . . I don't think you can judge a person's character by the fact that they have tattoos, or by how many they have; even the particular choices might reflect taste more than character. Then again, taste is part of character, and what aesthetic palette a person chooses to put on his or her body, what sort of ideological message he or she chooses to advertise, could be said to reflect, if not true character, at least some sense of self-image. One could even say that the amount of tattooing speaks to what the individual believes about the body.

    I say this, by the way, as someone with tattoos who'd like to get more, and who finds tattoos fascinating and lovely to look at.

    • 1 vote
    #8.1 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:35 PM EDT
    Joanna Caroll

    Well . . . I don't think you can judge a person's character by the fact that they have tattoos

    I think I said that, no?

    • 1 vote
    #8.2 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:04 PM EDT
    thelyamhound

    You said you can't a judge a person's character by their tattoos. I was suggesting that, while you can't judge a person's character by the fact that they have tattoos, you can at least make reasonable inferences about character by what, specifically, they have chosen to use to adorn their bodies. Do you see the distinction?

    Of course, it's also possible that the tattoos reflect not current character, but past character. I've definitely seen people who took on messages that lost relevance later in life, particularly in the cases of those who became involved, in youth, with gangs or with white supremacists.

    • 1 vote
    #8.3 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:19 PM EDT
    LV Mom

    I saw a player (I work in a casino) with a swastika tattooed on his arm and I thought it was disgusting. On the other hand, I've seen brilliant works of art and memory tats that I thought were cool. Tats do say a lot about the person wearing them. I'm too scared of needles and extra commitments to get a tattoo, personally. With tattoos, I think the cover is a pretty good guide to the book (person) inside.

    • 3 votes
    #8.4 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:36 AM EDT
    jamithy1

    the swastika was a religious symbol looooong before the nazi's hijacked it

    • 4 votes
    #8.5 - Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:14 PM EDT
    Reply
    ERich-356044

    I know that ink usually tells a story.... so I have been known to compliment of ask of the story behind it. I used to be scared stiff of people with them, but eh... things change.

    E

    • 4 votes
    Reply#9 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:26 PM EDT
    lilgremlin

    Frequently those of us with tats do have stories behind them. Mine have personal significance. Tattoos to me are a very personal choice. Unlike clothing which you can change out on a whim they are with you forever so choose what you want to say with your body very carefully.

    • 2 votes
    #9.1 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:51 PM EDT
    Reply
    thelyamhound

    I love tattoos. I only have three, and because too many could be an impediment to my career as a stage actor (though not necessarily to my other career as a personal trainer), I could only really see getting about two or three more. Well, maybe five or six . . .

    Here in Seattle, tattoos are sometimes referred to as the "Seattle tan." They're fairly ubiquitous, and generally pass unnoticed. They're actually more common in the kind of self-generated theater that I do than they are in the more mainstream equity houses, perhaps because the generative artists tend to maintain subcultural ties where mainstream artists struggle to maintain a sort of neutral anonymity.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#10 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:31 PM EDT
    Zom Zom

    You missed the assumption I make: better in bed.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#11 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:46 PM EDT
    lilgremlin

    Zom Zom you naughty boy! Have you been peeking in my bedroom window again? XD

    • 3 votes
    #11.1 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:53 PM EDT
    DaVoH

    Nope, tat was me!

    • 4 votes
    #11.2 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:18 PM EDT
    not over it

    You missed the assumption I make: better in bed.

    Hrm, mine was: funner to party with.

    I suppose that's the difference between married and single or old and young or both.

    • 2 votes
    #11.3 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:44 PM EDT
    Lissa Rose

    Watch out, Lil Gremlin. You will have some guys you can't get rid of. LOL Although, I don't know of anyone who would ever get rid of them. Hmmmm...

    • 4 votes
    #11.4 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:01 PM EDT
    DaVoH

    You couldn't beat me off with a stick, but I'd probably let you =)

    • 4 votes
    #11.5 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:42 PM EDT
    lilgremlin

    LOL DaVoH & Lissa!

    I can't imagine wanting to get rid of DaVoH or ZomZom (or my bf either ;)) They're too much fun!

    • 3 votes
    #11.6 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:18 PM EDT
    ruthlessmoose

    did somebody call for a guy that's impossible to get rid of? :D

    When I see tattoos.... I immediately think "I wanna go talk to THEM!" inked people are usually more than happy to talk about their tattoos, which is good, cuz I'm always curious about them. and hot girl with tattoos.... hotter! lol

    • 3 votes
    #11.7 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:10 PM EDT
    Lissa Rose

    Really good tattoos make some of the most interesting conversation. A bad one, well... I have another cousin I could talk about. She has a wonky flower on her foot. The coloring is bad, the shape is bad, and the placement is not quite right. I asked her about it, and she snapped my head off. (She is just like that though. She always snaps at anyone who would dare suggest anything negative about any one of her decisions... like the strapless maternity wedding dress when she was in her third trimester...)

    • 2 votes
    #11.8 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:42 AM EDT
    DaVoH

    did somebody call for a guy that's impossible to get rid of

    Yes they did, and it's about time! lol

    • 2 votes
    #11.9 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:43 AM EDT
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    weRdoomed

    I think they are cool. If someone has their face tattooed though, I think they are pretty silly - that could really screw up your job choices. I went with my friend in college when she got her first tat - the guy took off $50 because we both agreed to flash him - oh, those were the days...

    But I am still considering getting one at some point....do you ever get too old to get your first tattoo?

    • 3 votes
    Reply#12 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:04 PM EDT
    sheaster

    My mom was 62 when she got her first tattoo- a tweety bird on the inside of her arm. She now also has a lizard and his footprints encircling her wrist. She's 73 and sells real estate and volunteers at her local historical society and loves them.

    She told me the other day that she was considering becoming an alcoholic. This showed me I could do anything I set my mind to no matter my age and I said, "Good modeling, Ma!"

    So, I'd say you're never too old.

    • 4 votes
    #12.1 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:19 AM EDT
    Lissa Rose

    Well, I guess she may not screw up her liver too bad. Just don't let her drive after becoming an alcoholic. Not cool.

    • 2 votes
    #12.2 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:03 PM EDT
    Reply
    Checkmate-983933

    Depends on the tattoo. If someone has something really nasty or hateful as a tattoo, then I would avoid them. Other than that, I think they are neat.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#13 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:09 PM EDT
    going up

    I saw an old heavily tatooed lady who posed naked.....it was horrible!

    One or two---and in a place your work clothing covers. A lot of people will try to be cool about it when interviewing applicants...but it matters.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#14 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:11 PM EDT
    DaVoH

    I have none, but don't see anything wrong with them. Most of my friends have them, I just never got into it...

    • 4 votes
    Reply#15 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:31 PM EDT
    Freedom Writer-801740

    I think you should add an additional one. It depends. As a former corrections officer I am trained to recognize gang affiliated tattoos. If I see something along those lines, I do tend to be a little more cautious. With that said though, I have seen some really beautiful tattoos and some tattoo artists are exactly that true artists.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#16 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:39 PM EDT
    tomwcraig

    It really depends on the design of the tattoos. Some people look good with tattoos, others don't. Some tattoos are designed really well, and others aren't. I am, however, against them for myself.

    • 3 votes
    Reply#17 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:47 PM EDT
    Boudicea

    It's true that some can go too far. The worst thing is when they have really crappy art work. I used to dislike them - then I got a memorial tattoo for my 50th birthday - where it's usually covered, of course. And I went to an exceptional artist (my husband) to have it designed.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#18 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:51 PM EDT
    tomwcraig

    kjmgirl, will this new tattoo be a memorial of the lost freedom from the health care bill?

    • 3 votes
    #18.1 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:52 PM EDT
    Boudicea

    Hmmmmm - something to think about, ain't it? But lo, tattoos are permanent and I don't think this health care bill is!!

    • 2 votes
    #18.2 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:24 PM EDT
    tomwcraig

    I don't know, kjm, to hear the liberals speak it sounds like it is already Gospel and those of us against it are heretics meant to be burnt at the stake.

    • 3 votes
    #18.3 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:35 PM EDT
    weRdoomed

    I don't know, kjm, to hear the liberals speak it sounds like it is already Gospel and those of us against it are heretics meant to be burnt at the stake.

    Nah, we just think you're overreacting a bit. It's not so bad, you'll see. Not only will it be okay, it will be good.

    And tats will not be covered ;-)

    • 1 vote
    #18.4 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:39 PM EDT
    Boudicea

    WHAT??? NO coverage for Tattoos?? That's it! I'm taking up arms!

    • 4 votes
    #18.5 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:56 AM EDT
    Uncommon Sensibility

    Many moons ago, I saw a publication recording the statistics of the average "decorated" person. As a whole, they had lower IQs, lower net worths (fiscal), lower education levels, and had higher instances of criminal background.

    One of my friends fit that bill; the other did not. I believe piercings were lumped into the survey. Anybody remember where that was published?

    • 1 vote
    #18.6 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:54 PM EDT
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    JanayB

    I love tats! I have a couple of them myself and they all tell a story and are works of art.

    If being tatt'd up is your style, more power to you.

    • 6 votes
    Reply#19 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:05 PM EDT
    Dowser

    I have to be honest. Any time that I see a young woman on the beach with her stomach tattooed, I wonder what on earth it will look like after she has had a baby... Does anyone ever think what a tattoo will look like if you lose/gain weight throughout your life?

    Another thing-- I was at a wedding and saw a young woman with a HUGE tattoo on both arms and her back. They may be very pretty, but they were teal colored. Perhaps I'm very silly, but what on earth is she going to be able to wear in the future that won't clash with her teal colored tattoos? She is pretty much confined to specific colors that "go" with teal.

    I guess I sound like a real "church lady", but I can't help but feel that for women, a tattoo should be small and discreet. What are all these people going to do when they go out of style? It is a pretty permanent fashion statement. Nothing stays in style forever.

    And just because it has been done for thousands of years doesn't mean we should still do it. Egyptian pharaohs married their sisters for thousands of years, (which may explain why there aren't pharaohs any more)-- but we don't.

    So, while I don't want to judge anyone for having extensive body art-- for me, it wouldn't be a good idea.

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    #20 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:20 PM EDT
    JmetheSad

    Dowser

    I enjoyed your honesty regarding tattoos and actually when I got mine, those were the thoughts that went through my head and aided in my choice of tat and placement. Placement ankle for low weight gain and loss throughout life =P and lower stomach because when that possible stretches out (will do my best to keep it elastic so it goes back to normal) will be the end/modification to the story that tat represents. As for the tat choice, I'm sure like many (I hope most) have a story that each tat documents - something so pivotal that it needed to be permanently documented and always carried as a reminder/visual memory.

    What are all these people going to do when they go out of style? It is a pretty permanent fashion statement. Nothing stays in style forever.

    Personally, some - not all of course, many do just go with fades, feel sorry for them - do tell a story with their tats and life stories will never go out of style. Just my take on it.

    But do agree, I feel bad for the person who just picked flash off the wall because "it looked cool" in 10-20 years when they have to explain the monkey eating a football tattoo to friends, neighbors, employers or kids. Hahaha.

      #20.1 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:18 PM EDT
      Dowser

      Thank you for your kindness! I've seen some that are really nice. I sort of wonder what Angelina Jolie's stomach looks like after she had her twins... She is plenty skinny, but...

      I am a professional geologist, and I know what a lot of the more conservative firms I've worked for think about it-- that isn't the look they want to have representing their company. Perhaps women could get by with something small and cute, but something large and covering large amounts of the body? They would require the tattooed person to cover up.

      Or worse, wouldn't hire them to begin with. As the occasional interviewer for hiring people, (i.e. engineers, accounting, other professionals), if I had two candidates that were pretty equal in all things, I would not hire the tattooed one, only because it might give our customers the wrong idea about the company. It wouldn't matter to the company about the union people.

      We still have a dress code at the water company, for heaven's sake, and are not allowed to wear cargo pants, or those cute things whose name escapes me, uh, we used to call them peddle pushers, (I'm having a senior moment here...) Sorry! Slacks that hit the mid calf. WHAT are those called? Doesn't matter, we're not allowed to wear them.

      We had a lady that worked in customer service, and she got a small tattoo on her arm. Nice. I thought it was cute! But they made her wear sleeves and almost fired her. She got an official "demerit", (a letter in her file).

      So, I guess it depends on your age, your gender, where you work, and what part of the country you come from, as to what is appropriate in the tattoo world. :-)

      Again, thank you so very much for not yelling at me! :-)

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      #20.2 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:40 PM EDT
      Boudicea

      HI Dowser, how have you been! Missed ya!

      Wanted to tell you a story my tattoo artist told me. My friend's son (14) wanted his initials tattood on his shoulder. Artist said when his brother was 14 he got a tattoo on the top of his shoulder then had a growth spurt. By the time he was done growing the Tattoo was almost to his elbow!! LOL. Guess the moral is - do what I did and wait until you're 50!

      • 1 vote
      #20.3 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:58 AM EDT
      Dowser

      Dear lady, how are you? How is the cook book coming?

      Yep, I've thought about getting a small tattoo on my birthmark, but, then again... No one would see it but my husband, and it hurts, and blah blah blah.

      I'm so very glad to see you! Hope all is well for you!

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      #20.4 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:41 PM EDT
      Boudicea

      check in with Dining Divas group. Welcome back

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      #20.5 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:22 PM EDT
      JmetheSad

      Oh I learned there is no need for yelling - even when I got mine when my parents said specifically not to - my mom didn't talk to me for 2 days (best 2 days of my life =P)

      Ha kjmgirl - yeah getting tats young is prime for bad things to happen to it. Growth spurs, just like weight gain and loss, are scary things to think about with tattoos. Permanent deformed artwork =/ not a lifelong thing someone would want.

      Or one could be like my dad and get a homemade one with ink that apparently fades away completely. Disappearing tattoos; he appreciates the failed attempt as he's against them now.

      Just like everything else in life, it's all about appropriateness and aesthetics. If a person looks like a stamp pad with the tats unrelated and random that can't be covered up - it looks odd and doesn't make a great first impression- compared to someone who has a mural basically, at least it's beautiful to look at and it could tell a beautiful story without a lot of explaining. Or easily concealed tattoos, which aren't necessarily always small, just strategically placed to be able to keep them covered when in a professional environment, where generally one isn't suppose to be showing a lot of skin anyway.

      Tattoos should have a lot of thought put into them as they are permanent and reflect upon the person wearing them. Visual presentation is a big part of one's first impression, but hopefully the stigma of tattoos can be phased out.

      Oh that reminds me my old high school english teacher who was in her 60s when she taught me had a bunch of tattoos, cute small ones. She taught at my catholic high school, was a former nun, who ran off with the priest. I loved her, she was great and really help to squash a lot of stereotypes of tattoos that I may have had at the time.

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      #20.6 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:23 PM EDT
      Lissa Rose

      Dowser~ Capris? Could that be the word you were looking for?

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      #20.7 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:34 PM EDT
      Dowser

      Thank you, dear Lissa Rose! I couldn't think of it! Yep, we're not allowed to wear capris at work. Silly, isn't it? Or toe-less sandals. Eek!

      (((((((((Lissa Rose)))))))))))

      • 3 votes
      #20.8 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:42 PM EDT
      lilgremlin

      Dowser - I actually understand about the toeless sandal restrictions. Its an OSHAA thing if there's any chance of working near/around heavy equipment, sharp pointy objects, dirt or dirt-like substances with bacteria in them......that kind of thing. I know that when I walk out onto the shop floor I'm not supposed to wear open-toed shoes because of oil & grease. Hazardous materials make everyone's wardrobe less fun.

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      #20.9 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:29 AM EDT
      Lissa Rose

      ((((((((((((((Dowser))))))))))))))

      I can get the whole not being allowed to wear toeless sandals, but if shorts are allowed and pants are allowed, then capris should be just fine. But, I am also the person that thinks there are some people wayyyy too worried about what is exactly covering a person's body. I have always been the person that thought as long as the necessities were covered, and the clothes looked okey dokey together, then it was no sweat. LOL

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      #20.10 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:46 AM EDT
      Steech

      Another women's issue about tattoos is metal allergies during pregnancy. There are metals in tattoo ink, just like any other ink or paint. Just like some women have allergic reactions to jewelry, some women can have reactions to ink they've had in their skin for years. We're all protected by environmental regulations against lead and cadmium, but a number of benign but not hypoallergenic pigments may legally be present.

      My wife developed allergies to some of her tattoos during pregnancy. It seemed to depend on which artist did which tattoos. I assume the brand of ink was the culprit. I don't know whether tattoo artists are always aware of this issue, but given the value of the tattoo industry I am sure some professionals use hypoallergenic inks with this in mind. It would not be a bad question for a woman to ask, even if she is not currently considering having a baby.

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      #20.11 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:49 AM EDT
      Dowser

      Now that you all mention that, toe-less sandals do make sense. But not at headquarters... There is no oil or grease there, but I guess they have to ban it for the whole company.

      Metal in tattoo ink? not so good... I can see why some women develop allergies to them, especially during pregnancy when everything in your whole body kind of goes haywire...

      Good to see all of you! And thanks for the insights!

      • 2 votes
      #20.12 - Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:54 PM EDT
      Lissa Rose

      Like I said earlier, I think that some people worry too much about the clothes that cover other people.

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      #20.13 - Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:07 PM EDT
      Dowser

      Me too. And also worry too much about the clothes that cover them! :-)

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      #20.14 - Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:24 PM EDT
      Lissa Rose

      lol

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      #20.15 - Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:42 PM EDT
      Uncommon Sensibility

      Weight gain and tattoos: Neighbor had the lower back stain, then put on 100+ pounds. After she took the weight back off, the image was distorted, and stretch marks lightened the ink. She went back in for a touch up of color, but the stretched skin didn't "take" the ink as well.

      Loved my "colorful" friends. Hated the blotches.

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      #20.16 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:59 PM EDT
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      RACHEL1-933952

      The immediate family on my side is tat-free, however, my best friend has many tats. More power to her..I'm a needle-phobe.

      On hubby's side of the family, the only ones w/o tats are my mother-in-law, my hubby and myself.

      Using the entire body as a canvas, like Dowser, makes me wonder what they will look like after pregnancy or when the (either sex) gets old and wrinkly. That, I don't get, but, as it's not my body, I say, go for it!

      • 1 vote
      Reply#21 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:53 PM EDT
      weRdoomed

      I just think clean skin is so pretty on its own, it seems sad to cover it permanently with something else. But a tattoo here and there leaves plenty of bare canvas to admire.

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      #21.1 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:59 PM EDT
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      alkimija

      I see nothing wrong with a small, nicely done, nicely composed tattoo in an inobtrusive spot. However, I steer clear of people with tattoos in general, and especially those with multiple tattoos, large tattoos, and especially vulgar tattoos.

      In a world where we're surrounded by artificial things all around us, our bodies are really the only natural thing we have left, our one link to nature. That some people have to "brand" themselves and advertise their thoughts, their insecurities, on their skin (you don't have to be a psychologist to quickly grip the underlying motivations behind most tattoos), is quite repulsive to me.

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      Reply#22 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:04 PM EDT
      I Crow X

      I have one mellow chocolate brown tattoo that covers 99.9% of my body; my folks gave it to me.

      & I think it's cool - especially the way it handles sunlight.

      See, I ain't never hadda sunburn. Never thought about it.

      - The nappy hair part only makes it interesting . . .

      • 8 votes
      Reply#23 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:20 PM EDT
      Dowser

      You sound like a very beautiful person! :-)

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      #23.1 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:42 PM EDT
      Uncommon Sensibility

      I bet the creator was very, very proud of the final product.

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      #23.2 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:13 PM EDT
      Lissa Rose

      Awwwww...

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      #23.3 - Wed Mar 31, 2010 4:48 PM EDT
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      Little Sure Shot

      I have 3 on my upper arm symbolizing strength (bear paw), spirit (decorative steer kind of the the one on the Eagles album covers) and luck (eagle feather). I also have a blue rose on my ankle just because I like it.

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      Reply#24 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:25 PM EDT
      Jim Helbig

      I don't have any tatoos, but I have heard that they hurt, they bleed, and they are hard to get rid of. If someone wants to put themselves through all of that just to have something they will probably regret someday, so be it. I have made my share of stupid decisions too.

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      Reply#25 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:45 PM EDT
      HereAndGone

      Actually, it doesn't hurt that much. For myself, I have only one tattoo, and it took me fifteen years to decide on what I wanted. It's not on display and you'd never know I had one and, no, it's not someplace private, simply far enough on my arm that you can't see it if I wear a shirt with sleeves. I imagine a lot of coworkers might be surprised given my line of work in the finance industry since tatttoos aren't the norm there but I can say easily that I've never regretted mine.

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      #25.1 - Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:20 PM EDT
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      Summer-1597193

      I have several. The Sublime Sun on my lower back. I have giant cut-off angel wings on my scapulas and the spinal column (with the vasculature, nerves and bony detail) going up my spine. A couple more suns on my calves, ankles and feet, the phrase "Do No Speak Unless It Improves Upon Silence" from one shoulder to the other, crossing over C7. I also have "All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him. ~ Buddha" angled downward from the posterior to the anterior on my right rib cage. On my left, upper rib cage I have an "endless knot" and on my left lower rib cage, I have 3 lotus flowers. Every one of my tattoos can easily be covered - which is important when going through med school.

      I guess you could easily say I have no problem with tattoos.

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      Reply#26 - Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:55 PM EDT
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