Herman Cain: Muslims Must Show Loyalty To Work For Me

Wrong on so many levels, SuperSaiyan? I see how it's wrong on only one level. It doesn't reach far enough. Everybody should declare loyalty to the US Constitution. It should be a job requirement if you want to work for the government AT LEAST, if not for every person who wants to be called an American.

Are Muslims in the US a ticking time-bomb? We don't want to believe they are because of the ramifications of having the knowledge. We would have to deport or detain Muslims if we honestly believed they were a threat to the US, and the fact is, that goes against the very grain and fiber of "America, the land of the free and home of the brave." We went that route with the Japanese during WW2 and it's a black mark on the history of the US. But guess what. You go over to China, and they consider evangelical Christianity a threat, and guess what they do? They raid churches, imprison pastors and parishioners, and hold them without charge. Is that what we want to become?

So the other option is to try to win hearts by being nice and accepting. "Don't upset the applecart because we all like apples....right?"

What many fail to understand is that there is a religious belief that does not consider this life to be of the highest importance. They are patient, and they are devout. They do not fear us, but we fear them. But even more than us fearing them, we fear becoming what they are; intolerant and restrictive. And because we fear violating our own Constitution SO MUCH, we are blindly stumbling down the garden path into annihilation because we, by our Constitution, allow those in who do not care about our Consititution, but use it as a vehicle for our undoing.

More and more I consider myself a citizen of Heaven first, and then the world, because I honestly do not believe it will be even one more generation before our Consititution is declared invalid, and we become that which we have feared the most. A vassal state.

So what you're saying is that we should force everyone to take a loyalty pledge? And no one should be able to hold a government job if they don't? How long do you think that would run before it started being applied to private enterprise? And does that include if you're already considered a citizen? And if a person refuses to take the "loyalty" pledge just what exactly are the consequences that you envision?

Just how long after this practice is established will it take before we become a totalitarian state?

Education for the Masses, don't you think it's largely assumed now? We as children say the Pledge of Allegiance, which actually wouldn't hold up in any court of law because we were all too young to know what it was we were pledging allegiance to...

But okay, the issue is raised. How long ago was it that employers started requiring proof of the legal right to work in the United States? Put it on a job application, with a check mark in a box:

Do you swear loyalty to the US Constitution? — Yes _No It would come off as a test to see if the applicant can read English. And then they have to sign the application at the bottom.

So, I'm not sure how one would show loyalty to the Constitution. Memorize it? I mean, in a way that matters. How do you take the word of someone who believes in their heart of hearts that it's not only okay, but God rewards you if you deceive the infidel for the greater Cause?

And if someone refuses to take the loyalty pledge, they clearly are not loyal to the Constitution, and they don't get the job. I mean, shouldn't loyalty to the Constitution go hand in hand with working for the US Government? I think we assumed it for a long time, but perhaps those days are over. We assumed we were safe from terrorist attack on 9/10. Then the world blew up for over 3,000 of our citizens.

We as children say the Pledge of Allegiance, which actually wouldn't hold up in any court of law because we were all too young to know what it was we were pledging allegiance to...

Actually, children in schools cannot be required to say the Pledge of Allegiance, as seen in various court cases (primarily Florida and Maryland).

But okay, the issue is raised. How long ago was it that employers started requiring proof the legal right to work in the United States? Put it on a job application, with a check mark in a box:

Do you swear loyalty to the US Constitution? _— Yes _— No It would come off as a test to see if the applicant can read English. And then they have to sign the application at the bottom.

And if someone refuses to take the loyalty pledge, they clearly are not loyal to the Constitution, and they don't get the job. I mean, shouldn't loyalty to the Constitution go hand in hand with working for the US Government?

The United States government and private businesses actually do employee many non-Americans. For many nations, if one of their citizens pledged loyalty to the United States Constitution, it would result in loss of their citizenship. As they wouldn't be guaranteed citizenship in the United States, they would become a stateless person. It's an odd issue, but just one issue with requiring a pledge of loyalty.

It also makes me extremely nervous knowing that the People's Republic of China under Mao Zedung and Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler required loyalty pledges.

Fufu, right, but the reason many children do not say the pledge of allegiance is because of all the flap about the words "under God", and not loyalty to the US.

Thing is, Germany under Hitler, China under Mao, and all, still put their pants on usually one leg at a time. Should we not because they did?

Again, I think the issue has been raised. There are people residing in the US who do not love our country, and the stated goal of the demograph to which they belong is world conquest, either by conversion or force. We cannot go skipping merrily down the path and ignore the fact that the bulldozers are on the way. That's idiocy! How many times do we need to hear about Muslim goals of world conquest, before we realize that we are in the world, and they mean us too?

But then again, if all proceeds as it has for the last 3 years, China's going to take over, and they won't give a rip about loyalty to the Constitution, or Muslims.

But bear in mind, there is currently no law requiring any person, other than elected officials, to make any kind of oath (and it's an oath of office, not an oath of loyalty). Mr. Cain is not calling for such a law. He's calling for a situation where a chief executive unilaterally decides who is required to swear what type of oath in private. That's not American. That's a cult of personality.

There are people residing in the US who do not love our country, and the stated goal of the demograph to which they belong is world conquest, either by conversion or force. We cannot go skipping merrily down the path and ignore the fact that the bulldozers are on the way. That's idiocy! How many times do we need to hear about Muslim goals of world conquest, before we realize that we are in the world, and they mean us too?

There are people of many persuasions who may or may not be loyal to the United States. I seem to remember a raid on a "militia" group composed of white Christians because they were stockpiling arms and had issues with the country.

As for Muslim world conquest, what a complete crock. Any assault on the nation from an external enemy will be resisted. Millions of Muslims live in the United States and love the freedoms here. It's a non-issue, but it sounds real spooky, so some people want to make it an issue.

Fufu

That oath of office specifically requires them to up hold the Constitution. A similar oath applies to our armed services and IMHO should be required for all who work for any branch of government.

As for Muslims and world conquest, take your blinders off. What do you think all the acts of terrorism around the world are for?

What do you think all the acts of terrorism around the world are for?

How many nations have Muslim nations invaded in the past 100 years?

How many nations have the United States or one of its allies invaded in the past 100 years?

The No Religious Test Clause of the United States Constitution is found in Article VI, paragraph 3, and states that:

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

Yeah, but Fufu, we invade, fix the damage and give the country back. If Muslims have not been successful in their endeavors, call it the grace of God. Still, check this out:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17874369/

And if Muslims in America love the freedoms that we have here, then perhaps they need to stand up and denounce radical Islam. Our fathers, brothers and sons have fought, and many died, to give us these freedoms. People who come here from other countries, and not just Muslims, have done nothing to earn these freedoms. Seems like swearing loyalty to the Constitution would be a small thing to require.

Levi777:

What many fail to understand is that there is a religious belief that does not consider this life to be of the highest importance. They are patient, and they are devout. They do not fear us, but we fear them. But even more than us fearing them, we fear becoming what they are; intolerant and restrictive. And because we fear violating our own Constitution SO MUCH, we are blindly stumbling down the garden path into annihilation because we, by our Constitution, allow those in who do not care about our Constitution, but use it as a vehicle for our undoing.

More and more I consider myself a citizen of Heaven first, and then the world [ . . . ]

One quality that I have noticed and have always deeply appreciated about your posts, Levi, is that you are consistently respectful of your opposite in a debate. I admire that, and I admire your faith.

Through my experiences as a teacher of English in Ghana, West Africa and here in America, I have acquired many dear Muslim friends over the years. You're correct in your observation that many of them are patient and devout. Like other people, they also feel intense joy and unbearable sorrow, revere their elders, caress their spouses, adore their children - and sometimes spoil them, are uncommonly generous, sensitive, loving and kind. And as is true of any nation or race of human beings on the planet, there are some among them who are capable of unspeakable cruelty, barbarity and fanaticism — the natural exceptions to the norm that one will find anywhere.

You say that "there is a religious belief that does not consider this life to be of the highest importance," yet you "consider [your]self a citizen of Heaven first, and then the world." In the best of the Muslims I have encountered and known — and, in some cases, have come to love — their love of Allah simply transcends everything to be found on this physical and temporal plane. What, pray tell, is the difference, and what is there to fear in their love of God?

Your fears about Americans becoming intolerant or restrictive come too late, Levi: far too many are already there. Please, my friend, keep an open heart and an open mind.

Yeah, but Fufu, we invade, fix the damage and give the country back.

I'm sorry, but seriously?

Iraq. Vietnam. Afghanistan.

In which one of those nations did our invasion "fix" anything?

(And I should note that I was in favor of invading Afghanistan and remain in favor of fixing the mess that we've contributed to there.)

Fufu, Germany, Japan, South Korea.... I was in favor of invading Afghanistan as well...the Taliban is evil evil evil.

I remember there was a big controversy about rebuilding the infrastructure of Iraq. The contention was that their profits from oil production should pay for it, and not the American taxpayer. That was when insurgents were bombing the oil pipelines. I don't know whatever came from that. The fix I mean is we oversee the installation of a functioning government, ensure they have a viable means of security (as far as the country allows) and then eventually go home, or maintain a lesser presence.

Adler315 - I agree that there are those all across the spectrum that only want to raise their families, pursue the dream, and walk their faith in God as they understand Him/her/it. Perhaps these are happy abiding in the shadows, while so many of their brethren by faith and culture wreak havoc in the world. As one invididual so obnoxiously pointed out, (Jim44), Shariah Law and our Constitution...and our nations laws on every level, I may add...are incompatible. I do not think it homophobic, or fear-mongering to see the dynamic that takes place around the world when the radical Mullahs and Imams work their will, and then look for any wisp of the same here in the US.

What do we find with me? On Newsvine, and elsewhere, I cry foul over the deeds of the Westboro Baptist Church, Ted Haggard, Jimmy Swaggert...Christian men who believed their own press and fell in their pride and weakness...that ain't God, and it isn't Jesus Christ. The Catholic priests that molest children and the heirarchy that covers it up. That isn't Jesus, at all.

So where are the Muslims that denounce terrorism? Denounce Shariah Law as a "yoke neither we nor our fathers were able to endure."? It has been said "A word of explanation removes great offense." Well, in the absence of that explanation what shall we believe? It is not uncommon to form beliefs based on available information. Silence tends to indicate agreement.

And thank you for your kind comment, which I'm not sure I deserve!

Fufu, Germany, Japan, South Korea...

That still gives us a pretty low success rate (and we can only get credit for half of Korea / Germany).

Also, we appear to be going downhill on our rebuilding success rate.

I think my point still holds up that at best, Muslim nations are an equal threat to other nations as the United States, but more likely, they're less of a threat (and certainly less of a global threat).

Hey Fufu, have you seen that docu-drama "My Trip to Al-Qaeda"? It's a real eye opener about life in Muslim countries.

One thing we never hear about, although we did from the stuff found in Osama binLaden's compound, and that's Muslims and the temptations of the world. At some point, religion isn't the answer to everything, and most certainly the efforts of man to adhere to a religion isn't the constantly successful answer to temptations of the flesh. So, I wonder what Muslims who immigrate here to the US...say those Sharia-mongers in Dearborn, Michigan, do about scantily clad women on the beach, or, Playboy and Hustler on the newstand. If they own a shop, do they sell those magazines? "America the great satan" is the rant from radical Islam, and I often wonder how many of the respectable family men in Dearborn weren't..in their youth...in their home country screaming "God is great! Death to Israel, death to America!" Then they come here and are confronted with the lifestyle of a free society. Watch that video (you can search for it on YouTube) and you'll see what I mean. Saudi Arabia: no movies, no plays, no theater, no nightclubs, no dancing, no concerts...then they come here, and it has GOT to be one heck of a temptation.

So perhaps those that come here, when removed from the Mullahs and Imams that preach hate and intolerance, find themselves caring less and less about raising up childen to take over the world; especially when those children go to school and discover Justin Bieber, or the internet, etc etc. Such is the seduction of a free society. The fervency and radicalism that comes from the preaching Mullahs and Imams seems distant, far away, and if they come here, they're likely to get arrested by Dept. of Homeland Security. So maybe American society is removing the threat by it's very nature. Even those born here...among the youth it's like "God, yeah...Hey look! Text messaging!"

I can't believe anyone would give this bigot air time...but he is the black guy in the GOP and if they don't the GOP will look a little too white. some sarc

Just what do you know about this man to justify you CALLING HIM A BIGOT?

What a statement you read without context and YOU LABEL HIM!

It seems that the Left has no problem labeling people....BIGOT or RACIST.....don't agree with us...I get it!

The people are beginning to see HOW THIS GAME IS PLAYED! Being Cain is Black you can't call him a racist so he must be the next best thing a BIGOT... Sad!

Yep no one will notice ...LOL

Being Cain is Black you can't call him a racist

Why not?

Just what do you know about this man to justify you CALLING HIM A BIGOT?

Well, he said he would require a Muslim to take an oath that he wouldn't require other people to take. That's bigotry.

Just what do you know about this man to justify you CALLING HIM A BIGOT?

He has stated that he would, as President of the United States, treat some Americans differently because of their religion. Not because of anything the individual in question may have done, mind you, but because some other people have committed violence in the name of that religion (something which no religion is immune to).

He is, based upon his own words, bigoted against Muslims.

The people are beginning to see HOW THIS GAME IS PLAYED! Being Cain is Black you can't call him a racist so he must be the next best thing a BIGOT... Sad!

Uh...you can't be racist towards a religion. But you can be bigoted towards a religion.

Uh...you can't be racist towards a religion. But you can be bigoted towards a religion.

I agree, however many Americans (I have no idea if Mr. Cain fits into this group, though) assume that Muslim and Arab are the same. In that case, it is both racist and bigoted.

futu

(I have no idea if Mr. Cain fits into this group, though) assume that Muslim and Arab are the same.

Yet before you said that ...you said ...

He is, based upon his own words, bigoted against Muslims.

Which is it?

Sorry that falls into a WTF ... The two statements don't work together!

Or .... Asking a question of Muslims if Sharia takes persistence over the CONSTITUTION ?

I mean You are aware that a Muslim that is a true follower believes in Sharia and Sharia and our Constitution are incompatible... RIGHT!

Its not about RADICAL or average or normal ....

Its about do you believe in SHARIA Law or not!

Cains position if you bothered to learn was he needs to know if a Muslim will put the CONSTITUTION above their religion!

I will wait for the honest ones on the left that think the constitution is more important than the persons religious position...

Please WAKE THE FLUCK UP! A devout Muslim that believes in Sharia Law or a member of Westboro Baptist Church... No damn difference!

Please WAKE THE FLUCK UP! A devout Muslim that believes in Sharia Law or a member of Westboro Baptist Church... No damn difference!

Whew. Uh...lol. There's no point in even trying to explain what's wrong with that statement.

futu

(I have no idea if Mr. Cain fits into this group, though) assume that Muslim and Arab are the same.

Yet before you said that ...you said ...

He is, based upon his own words, bigoted against Muslims.

Which is it?

The second statement is based upon his words and he is bigoted based upon those words. The first statement was an analysis of racially-based bigotries that many Americans may have (and I specifically said that I did not know if Mr. Cain had those bigotries).

1) Mr. Cain is bigoted against Muslims, based upon his statements.

2) I do not know if Mr. Cain is racist against Muslims, because I have not seen any statements where he automatically links Arab as an ethnicity with Muslim as a religion.

Nothing that I said was logically inconsistent.

Fufu, we may not agree concerning Mr. Cain, but I got your back on this Jim44 character. Reported him as inflammatory. His rant was uncalled for.

Thank you, Levi777.

I doubt we need worry about sharia law, since ours is the constitution and I just dont see americans allowing it. I think we need to calm down and get back to rational thinking in this USA. There are good muslims and bad muslims, good christians and bad christians and it makes me sad to hear stuff like this because this is the type of thing that will strip us all of our religous freedoms. That is when we will need to worry. sorry, off topic.

Linda, I don't think it was off topic at all. The problem with Shariah law is in it's implementation. Would our legal system in America allow the public whipping of a young girl caught holding hands with a boy? Or the execution of a woman caught in adultery or premarital sex? As regards the whipping, could not those following that cursed legal system claim that to deny their right to publicly flog someone violates their Constitutional right to practice their religion? How about rape or incest? Child abuse? I will never believe that this does not happen in a closed society, such as Islam with Shariah Law. Do then the American authorities need to back off and let the matter be handled by Shariah Law? We saw Shariah Law under the Taliban. It is a wicked and oppressive system, however they try to market it, and it must be opposed most vehemently even when it's mentioned.

Do you know why the Holocaust Museum, and the words, "Lest we forget"? It's not to keep the hatred burning...it's so that this world will never let it happen again, because those who forget or deny history are doomed to repeat it. We must never forget the evil that is the Taliban and Shariah Law, and must never allow it anywhere good men have influence, especially here in the US. At least in that way, we may be a haven still for the oppressed of the world.

Levi ...

You are asking questions they will never answer!

Would our legal system in America allow the public whipping of a young girl caught holding hands with a boy? Or the execution of a woman caught in adultery or premarital sex?

These people do not understand that Sharia Law is a way of LIFE.... not a religious belief system!

Jim, their way of life is dictated by their religious belief system. This includes Sharia Law. And past history, even recent history, does not require truth to make the accusation of infringement. How many times have we seen the false put forth as an argument against the right and true, and win? For example, the lengths to which our courts have gone to eradicate any evidence of God from any publicly funded enterprise...even to the banning of nativity scenes in the public park.

I'll make the same suggestion to you. Go to YouTube.com and search for "My Trip to Al-Qaeda". If you've never watched it, I encourage you to do so. It is very well done, and very informative and enlightening. And if Islam doesn't ban hand-holding between boys and girls in public, why did 15 girls burn to death at a school in Saudi Arabia because the gate was locked and they didn't have on their burqas? Why were the 17 fire engines that responded to the fire stopped from opening the locked gate to rescue the girls? One man. A member of the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice. The girls didn't have on their coverings. One man saw his daughter at the gate pleading for them to open the gate to escape the flames. The father sent her back inside to get her coverings. She burned to death.

Please don't tell me that Islam's Sharia Law is compatible with the Constitution. And Sharia Law is one of the products of that religion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

I'm not sure where you're getting your information, Jim.

I'll go along with that measure as long as we can pass a law requiring Republicans to wear t-shirts that say "I'm with stoo-pid" with the arrow pointing straight up to their face.

The easy fix...and if they didn't see the flak coming, they maybe they need to fire their information gurus....have EVERYBODY declare loyalty to the Constitution. They never should have said, "Only Muslims". Remember Okalahoma City bombing, Timothy Vey, and all that? Was he a Muslim? Guess what though, he wasn't loyal to the US Constitution even though he served in the Army where he would have been required to state and vow that he was loyal to the Constitution. Maybe he was at that time, and then it changed over the years. Who knows.

Point is, they should have made everyone show loyalty to the Constitution. Then it would have been a non-issue.

The point of Cain's comment was to emphasize a fundamental belief shared by many conservatives -- that some Americans are inherently more American than are others. More specifically, those that share his ideology belong in the former category.

LOL...and yet he is becoming more and more popular......on the right that is...IMO he is proving himself to be who I thought he would be.

Pretty clear, if you can read! Don't forget Teabaggers DISDAIN education. They say it indoctrinates ther Children. I guess that's why they love 'Failing Palin'. Stupid is, as stupid does; or is it birds of a feather FLOCK...

I say people that think like that, should not have children;parenting is not mandatory.

What do you expect? Cain was an associate Minister at Antioch Baptist in Northern Atlanta, he is unable to separate faith from politics.

A southern, baptist, pizza CEO, who is also a bigoted homophobe... sounds like the perfect GOP candidate to me.

Maybe he should pull a Michael Jackson and get his skin bleached to get the KKK vote he's missing out on.

Maybe he should pull a Michael Jackson and get his skin bleached to get the KKK vote he's missing out on

Maybe he should pull a Michael Jackson and get his skin bleached to get the KKK vote he's missing out on

anyone think there is a racial tone in that?

I want to make sure you all see what this person said! Sadly that comment was voted up 4 times....

That statement was not only misleading, but stupid as well. It's been medically documented that the late Michael Jackson suffered from the pigment-destroying ailment, Vitiligo. Perpetuating ignorance does no one any good. Apparently, Malcantro and others prefer gossip over FACTS.

ahhh, that needs to be repeated in bold...

"Politicians must show intelligence to work for me."

lol. I totally agree, but if that were the case we'd have to fire half of Washington.

Excellent Idea! make sure that when you get elected as President that you wont play politics...great idea... make sure now that as a politician you wont get into politicking or any thing political...I get it...Your going to run Govt like a business where if there is no money, you wont spend or borrow unless it brings in revenue...where profit is king and politics will just run you out of business....well said Seastar

Mal, there is plenty of work for the office holders to do even without getting 'political'...a difference which you don't seem to comprehend based on your snarky comment.

Mal, there is plenty of work for the office holders to do even without getting 'political'...a difference which you don't seem to comprehend based on your snarky comment.

I think you mean snarky comments...

The GOP is playing smart here by having the non-white guy say it this time, as a test of the waters so to speak (remember it was 'a woman' in the form of MB that said something similar about testing Americans loyatlies too a little bit ago)...If the white guy did, the Nazi connection would have been stated a lot louder...Now, people are just tip-toeing around it...

As a Christian I'm only required to have loyalty to God/Jesus not a man; although my loyalty to God/Jesus should effect and affect my character

Do you agree that God has set up earthly authorites as well? Does not the Bible teach respect for man's authority, in this case, the Constitution? To say "I am a Christian and my loyalty is to God and not man" is not appropriate in this case. God would say, "If you honor Me, you would honor the authorities I have allowed." Did not Jesus say, "There is no authority but from God."?

I'll wager that the issue isn't that our Constitution is so bad that it offends God if a Christian swears loyalty to it. It's the way man has 'interpreted' the Constitution, where they have "set aside the laws of God for the traditions of man." That's where the big offense is. Not the Constitution itself.

I don't think "God" has set up earthly authorities.

Humans did that.

If anything, "God" gave us the game board, and lets us play with it as we will.

"God" gives us the rope to hang ourselves with.

The Great Spirit I believe exists(I don't claim to know or understand it, like many others do), isn't an emperor/human like entity that needs to be pleased, to receive a reward or punishment at His/Her /Its whim.

Anger, jealousy and wanting those you think beneath you to worsip you(or be punished), are human traits.

We've superimposed our own selfis traits, on our idea of how "God" is.

American Lobo, (no disrespect from me intended at all), please read your last line, then reread your comment. Is that not what you have done?

We've superimposed our own selfis traits, on our idea of how "God" is.

The point I wish to make is that you are correct. We cannot know God as He is in our finiteness. What we know of Him is only revealed, and without that revelation, the best we can do is grope in the dark. Now, can one seek the revelation? Most certainly. But it all goes to attitude of the heart.

We as fathers tell our children what to do and not do for their benefit, unless we are dysfunctional then we tell them what to do for our benefit. But best case scenario, it's for their benefit. How then can we not consider that God tells us, "This is the way. Walk ye in it."? The economy of heaven, and the qualities and characteristics of heaven and it's citizens is much different, much higher and more pure and noble, than is our earth. Our earth is fallen, as is mankind...look at what we do to ourselves, to each other. There is none of that dynamic in heaven because God the Father is over all and above all, and has created all. But lest this become a dizzying dilemma, suffice to say that God is, and He rewards those who seek after Him without giving up.

LOL Stevie....Cain should have a sit down with Steele.

#18.1:LOL Stevie....Cain should have a sit down with Steele.

Maybe Cain should have a sit down with ME! I could have saved Steele some time, effort and dry-cleaning bills!

MEG....lol....don't save....educate...sry..EDUCATE

#19:How dare he!! You know what Cain? I don't want to work for a racist bigot like you! Keep your stupid jobs, I don't want anything to do with them!

I agree with you, redwhiteandblue15! But it seems that Cain is the one who needs a job!

I would not work for Cain either - even if HE offered to pay me!

You know MEG and red....I would work for him to point out his faults....not to be on the right wing MSM )that includes FOX....just to point out to those black republicans that forgot...or forget their past truly

I live in Georgia (same as Mr. Cain) and he's said that on local talk radio and television. The guy's clueless about how his statement sounds outside of Dixie, because Georgia is a red state and many here are tea party extremists stroking his ego.

AFVetGrrl84, I listened to a radio program on regularly, for the American Center for Law and Justice. These guys are happening, these guys are now. They, as of a week ago, LOVE Hermann Cain. I don't think Mr. Cain is going away any time soon. Perhaps he may modify his tone, but certainly, if we read the article for this seed, sitting down with a prospective employee and talking one on one about the Constitution, and the applicant's views concerning the Constitution, is that really beyond the realm of acceptabililty? I mean, when I apply for a job, and in the interview, the interviewer says, "okay, what do you know about our company?", unless I don't want the job, I've done my research, and I can answer that question in a way that pleases the interviewer.

So, on a job application, and from the background investigation, a Muslim, covered head and all, has applied for a position in my office, and I have learned that his/her parents brought him/her to the US when he/she was 10 years old. Should not Mr. Cain have the right to ask questions concerning their loyalties? I mean, you can't ask about religion. Okay. But I would rather have it stated and made plain and not have it be an open question.

But then I maintain that the same questions and determinations should apply to all, and not just Muslims, if they are applying for a government job, especially in the office where security issues are key.

Do I have the right to question yours? After all, I'm fairly certain I saw you allude to a belief that you were a citizen of Heaven so doesn't that call into question your loyalty to the United States? This is where you start to run into trouble. First we test on religion, then we test on school, then money, political connections, etc. Where do you stop determining if a person meets the test?

And what do you do with those that fail the tests? Do we deport them? Intern them in camps? Or do we simply kill them and toss them into a mass grave?

Alan Keyes! Haaaaaaaa!

They parachuted that ignorant word abusing moron into Chicago to run against some guy with a funny name...what was that guys name?

OBAMA!

You can take Alan West off that list too...he's a sellout too!

He stood in silence as that woman was hauled away in cuffs and then maced...because she screamed at him at a tea party meeting!

Let me clarify, I wouldn't vote for any of them, but I would vote for any of them over Herman Cain. My point is that they are more electable than Cain, and that is why the GOP is promoting him.

he is a Patsy (as in dupe) !

True that brother! True that!

Cain has already sold his soul...he'd sell me if he got the chance!