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Mom & Daughter Arrested After Beating Up 6th Grade Student in School Cafeteria Brawl

Seeded on Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:18 AM EST
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ORLANDO, Fla. — Orange County deputies said a mother stormed her child's school and helped beat up another student in the cafeteria.

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maddad

Both mom and daughter were arrested, and the mother was charged with battery, child abuse and other charges for entering the school without permission and provoking the fight.

Jahmiyah Smith says the 29-year-old mother stormed in with her daughter and told her to attack.

"All of the sudden I saw a big crowd coming into the cafeteria," Jahmiyah said. "The girl just called me the b word, and then I turned around and she hit me from the back."

Jahmiyah said her friends stepped in to stop it, and that's when the mom got involved as well.

"She was in there fighting with the kids," Jahmiyah said.

Jahmiyah's mother, Kathleen Smith, said she's complained to the school about her daughter being bullied by a group of girls, including the girl involved in the fight.

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:19 AM EST
douglasq

Wait, the bully's mom was doing the fighting?

  • 2 votes
#1.1 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:54 PM EST
Shadow Luna

no, her child was being bullied and the school did nothing so she snapped and attacked the bully.

  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:00 PM EST
formerstew

Jahmiyah said her friends 'stepped in to stop it'? Yeah, my big butt. They 'stepped in' to do the same thing they had been doing all along.

I'm not saying it was right for the mother to show up at the school, but she had every right to do whatever necessary to pull her kid out from under the big pile in the cafeteria.

  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:46 AM EST
Steve-2081387

The girl and her mother were part of the bullies, Jamahyah Smith was the girl being bullied. Dont you people read the article before commenting?

  • 3 votes
#1.4 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:34 AM EST
buttzie

Bang on Steve.

  • 2 votes
#1.5 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:25 PM EST
Randi is a girl

To be fair the article was a little confusing when describing who was who. Smith wasn't even introduced.

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:46 PM EST
Shadow Luna

Ok I just re-read to, the Mother of the Bully told her daughter to go and attack her victim, then when the victims friends tried to stop the girl, the mother started beating up the friends.

Wow

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:20 PM EST
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mith1215

What a POS. It's no wonder kids are the way they are with parents like that. Sounds like the the school needs to take it's blinders off too.

  • 4 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:35 AM EST
mrsrachelm

For crying out loud. People are just losing it these days. I mean everyone is on the edge about everything.

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:46 AM EST
Little Sure Shot

Where is June Cleaver when we need her?

    Reply#4 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:10 PM EST
    WillBoyd

    Where is June Cleaver when we need her

    didn't she get busted for shagging Eddie?

    • 2 votes
    #4.1 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:19 PM EST
    Queenie of the castle

    I thought she divorced Ward for being too hard on the Beav!

    • 3 votes
    #4.2 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:03 PM EST
    Little Sure Shot

    I was sooo waiting for that one Queenie LMAO.

    • 1 vote
    #4.3 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:58 PM EST
    WillBoyd

    yeah So was I.

    • 1 vote
    #4.4 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:26 PM EST
    Randi is a girl

    She lost all her money when the kid sued her for child abuse in calling him Beaver.

    • 3 votes
    #4.5 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:48 PM EST
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    LanaD

    Jahmiyah's mother, Kathleen Smith, said she's complained to the school about her daughter being bullied by a group of girls, including the girl involved in the fight.

    "Every day I'm at the school, and I just keep complaining and complaining and complaining, and nothing gets done. It takes for this to happen for them to want to do something," Kathleen Smith said.

    I can understand the frustration especially with kids committing suicide over bullying but going in and beating up 6th graders in not the way to deal with it. She should have had her kid wear a recorder or video tape the bullying like other parents and kids are starting to do when they get no help from the school officials.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#5 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:16 PM EST
    Shadow Luna

    I understand to, does not make what she did ok, but I get it.

    • 2 votes
    #5.1 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:36 PM EST
    JosieB

    LanaD ~ unless, you are training your child to be an FBI sleuth, you don't rig your elementary shcool kid up with recording devices.

    • 2 votes
    #5.2 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:35 PM EST
    LanaD

    Josie: Yes you do, especially if you think there is bullying that isn't being taken seriously by the school. There have been recent reports of parents doing this and catching not just students but TEACHERS bullying their kids.

    Way better alternative than storming the school and beating up the people bullying your kid lol

    • 3 votes
    #5.3 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:39 PM EST
    JosieB

    I do not condone parents storming the school and doing harm to anyone. I, also, do not condone rigging your child up with wire-taps and video cams, like a young FBI Agent.... those cams alone taped onto the child will damage him/her forever. The child will forever think "cameras" ....on me, on my friends, my friends parents houses, all schools.... child will become a paranoid wreak.

    As a parent, if your child is being schooled in an unsafe environment, my suggestion is to remove the child and seek an alternative school. The article, above, makes it clear the parent complained & spoke to school officials several times. It didn't help. I understand that due to fiscal constraints, most people just can't afford to relocate, put their child in another school, or send their child away to boarding school.

    I've read that what this mother did was out of sheer frustration, fear and grief. She acted in a criminal manner, she shouldn't have. She lost her bearings, her sense of self, sense of family, sense of decency and sense of control. This parent forgot that with every move she makes on behalf of her child, the child retains that memory forever & will use it as an example of "what mamma did."

    My advice: MOVE. As a parent, you find a community where your child will have peace. Once you do make the move, get involved with the school, volunteering at least one day a week or working there at least one day a week. Let your child tell the other kids, my Mom works here.... they'll leave the child alone. (At least, that happens in decent schools.).

    And it's not "lying" for your child to say that his/her Mom/Dad works here even if it's to donate time or cakes for special school functions., at least not in my day.

    Let's face it, kids are brutal, some of them, anyways. It's always the sensitive, sweet ones that come home crying ...... and that tells me they were raised right, just not prepared for kids who weren't. Back in my day, parents of bullied kids would take a day off and surprise the class with two pizzas for all the kids, as if no bullying had ever taken place.... sometimes that works. There are a million things that works. Just don't put money into your kids pocket for "extras" -that'll turn into kids borrowing money for cafeteria food they aren't allowed to have, and when they realize they can't pay it back/or won't, they won't be your kids friends either. No cash. Bad idea.

    There is no excuse for this womans conduct, which is what this article is based upon. None, whatsoever. Had she been in control of her emotions, she'd have made other arrangements for her child to be educated elsewhere. Another school district nearby, or if she could afford it - moving, or if she really had money - boarding school out of state. Storming into your childs 6th grade classroom, like a Marine waging war, is not going to solve your childs problem with children the same age. It'll make your kids problems worse. I think it's time parents grew up. And.....

    Yes, I am aware of the suicide epidemic of kids due to bullying. It's important for young adults to know (not sure about kids) that there is nothing romantic about dying. Nobody will remember you, or even visit your grave or discuss you or care about you once "you are gone." "You'll just be gone & forgotten." Bullies will grow up to become decent human beings, not realizing how badly they affected you, thinking nothing of it, often looking back fondly about how much they liked you, but terrorized you because they were so cowardly they couldn't admit an affection for you.

    I was told to "kill myself" in high school and I told my tormentors to "f*** off and kill themselves." Words are "just words to kids in school." They don't really mean it, they're just being cruel. One day a senior in our school shot himself in a parking lot nearby the school over his girlfriend in our school, some romantic quarrel....... kids stopped bullying other kids with words like "Die, I hate you." Kids learned the meaning of life, after that death. I recall sitting in math class observing the girl he shot himself over.... she was devastated. I couldn't stop staring at her. I wondered what could drive a senior to kill himself over her? I realized, after contemplation, she was wondering the same thing. Sad times, tragic times, but our school pulled together to make sure nothing like this happened again in our school. It didn't. But..... bullying still went on.

    I'm in the "bullied" group, so I know. Pass it on.

    • 3 votes
    #5.4 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:45 PM EST
    LanaD

    those cams alone taped onto the child will damage him/her forever.

    Bullying would be way more damaging. And the kids who were rigged didn't report any ill effects from it, in fact they expressed relief that the bullying was finally going to be taken serious. I for one would have had no problem with it and wish my parents would have done it to me.

    The child will forever think "cameras" ....on me, on my friends, my friends parents houses, all schools.... child will become a paranoid wreak.

    Don't try sheltering your kid from reality. There are cameras everywhere and you better watch what you do. If your kid isn't doing anything they don't want recorded then why shouldn't be a paranoid wreck. Point out that the cameras are there for their protection, like proving bullying so something will be done to stop it for example.

    But I do agree with most of your points! I was bullied like you so I know too!

    • 3 votes
    #5.5 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:03 PM EST
    JosieB

    LanaD !! One of my points is this: these are kids about to enter into puberty, if they haven't already. Comon' now!! Cameras, keeping the kids worried about being at home in the bathroom exploring the changes going on in their bodies? That is what I'm talking about. It's an innocent time for kids. Keep the kids innocent. Not young FBI Agents with cameras strapped to their bodies and told cameras are rigged here and there........... the human race will die out. Let kids be kids, but protect them at this age. PS - I'm glad we agree on the bully thing, though.

    • 2 votes
    #5.6 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 6:57 PM EST
    LanaD

    Recording devices are already everywhere and being used for this exact purpose and still kids don't need to worry about them inside their own bathrooms/bedrooms. Tell them the truth, they will survive. No reason you can't sit down with your kid and tell them about the changes and urges puberty is going to bring and even though there are cameras on almost every street corner, building, and public place doesn't mean they are in your room or bathroom.

    I should also have pointed out a long time ago that no parent should force or strap a camera onto their kid without their permission or desire. I see not a thing wrong with asking your kid if they would like to attempt to get concrete proof of bullying so it will prompt something to be done about it finally or allowing the kid to record it if they come to you feeling that's the only way to get taken seriously.

    • 2 votes
    #5.7 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:59 PM EST
    Steve-2081387

    Lana

    The mother who did the attacking was not the mother of the girl being bullied, she is the mother of the girl doing the bullying.

    • 3 votes
    #5.8 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:36 AM EST
    LanaD

    Wow you are so right Steve, I went back and re-read it. I must have totally misread the article! Seems like I'm not the only one at least...

    • 2 votes
    #5.9 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:07 PM EST
    Steve-2081387

    It was kind of confusing at first.

    • 2 votes
    #5.10 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:39 PM EST
    formerstew

    It took me 2 re-reads to get it straight. My idiocy knows no bounds.

    • 1 vote
    #5.11 - Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:41 AM EST
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    WILDWONDERFUL

    Kick the kid out of school and make sure the Mother if that is what you wish to call her gets punished to full letter of the law. Just curious wonder who this Mother would vote for for President.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#6 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:23 PM EST
    maddad

    Just curious wonder who this Mother would vote for for President.

    pls! topic....thnx

    • 3 votes
    #6.1 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:32 PM EST
    Reply
    Queenie of the castle

    As a mother who's child was bullied, I can understand this mothers frustration, but I would NEVER stoop to this level. This makes her no better than the girls that were bullying her daughter. Not to mention, the message she is conveying to her daughter. :(

    • 5 votes
    Reply#7 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:38 PM EST
    JosieB

    As an adult today, who was bullied in school myself........ my parents taught me to fight my own battles. As a result, I quit ballet, quit drama class, then quit social studies, then left school altogether. My parents finally got it. They sent me to boarding school out of state... where I got straight A's. Kids can be & are horrid creatures, especially those without parental guidance. Bullies generally come from houses where both parents work full-time, so obsessed with money, they don't raise their kids.

    • 3 votes
    #7.1 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:43 PM EST
    WillBoyd

    Bullies generally come from houses where both parents work full-time, so obsessed with money, they don't raise their kids

    well that or they like to use the kid as a punching bag or a sexual toy.

    • 2 votes
    #7.2 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:55 PM EST
    LanaD

    Bullies generally come from houses where both parents work full-time, so obsessed with money, they don't raise their kids

    Or parents who are poor (that includes the working poor, both parents can work full time and still be poor) and see them as nothing but burdens or welfare checks. Or dumb parents who just reproduced for the attention and kodak moments but wanting nothing to do with actually parenting

    • 4 votes
    #7.3 - Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:05 PM EST
    Dani-976192

    Being poor and having working parents does not make bullies. Having mean, angry, drunk or drug-abusing parents can also make bullies of children. Some children are just born mean; sometimes, they're born to wealthy parents and parents who care tremendously about their children, and to stay-at-home mothers. Some children are exhibiting early stages of mental illness or emotional deficiencies in their bullying behavior.

    I grew up in a poor household. My father worked, my mother stayed home until all of us kids were in school. We were expected to do chores, mind our manners, and do well in school. Picking on one another was not tolerated. None of us grew up to be bullies, and our kids have fortunately turned out to not be bullies.

    When my oldest daughter was in kindergarten, I caught her making fun of another girl's dress while we were walking to school one morning. Fortunately, the other girl didn't hear what my daughter said. We were about a block from our house, so I turned around and took my daughter home; I made sure she understood that what she had said was wrong. Then, I took her to school and checked her in. I never heard her make another comment like that again. I've worked full-time for most of my children's lives. Staying at home wasn't an option. My husband's salary as a police officer was not enough to pay for all the basics. I worked part-time until my oldest daughter had to have braces at age 9, and then I had to work full-time to pay for her braces. Before y'all say anything about vanity, she didn't need them for looks; her teeth were so misaligned that she was having jaw problems and some of her teeth were wearing grooves in some of the other teeth. It was a medical necessity, not vanity, that sent me to work. But, I still managed to be a mother.

    You can't always guarantee how your child will turn out, but you can always make the effort. Being poor or wealthy makes no difference. It's the PARENTING part that makes the difference- not the money.

    • 3 votes
    #7.4 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:14 AM EST
    Reply
    mocha-licious

    A bully can come from a rich, poor or middle class household. Finance has nothing to do with it. But, I do think parents should instill self confident and self preservation in their kids. You cannot be little punks and cry everytime someones talks about you and pushes you around. You have to teach your kids to fight back, with fists, not guns. You'll win some and lose some but they will not that the kids is not an easy target. Yes, words hurt but parents need to teach their kids that they will be talked about alot in child hood and as an adult. Don't worry about what people say about you. Hell, talk about them back.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#8 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:01 AM EST
    mocha-licious

    correction: Know that

      #8.1 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:36 AM EST
      Reply
      oobazzuB

      Absolute TRASH! I hope she gets punished to the full extent of the law

      • 2 votes
      Reply#9 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:30 AM EST
      mocha-licious

      Is it me or those this story seem backwards?

      • 1 vote
      Reply#10 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:38 AM EST
      oobazzuB

      Seriously? Bullying is a poor thing? Those that said that are just ignorant.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#11 - Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:20 PM EST
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